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Old Feb 18, 2021 | 07:44 AM
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My son currently has a 2017 F-250 SuperCrew with the 6.7 diesel. It's his main ride but a business vehicle. Anyway he's been having a few issues lately that are starting to nickle and dime him. He is close to a decision to upgrade to a 2021 model. One of the area dealers has a few Superduties in stock or in transit. Being that he lives in Traverse City and they get a lot of snow up there he also has to plow quite a bit.

I remember reading somewhere that diesels are not recommended for snowplowing. Can't remember why the author of that article came to that conclusion. He's looking at two trucks. One has the 6.7 turbo-diesel and the other one the 7.3 Godzilla gasser. Which would be the better truck considering he has to plow a lot of snow for 5 to 5 1/2 months of the year. Would you go gas or diesel. I would like to hear from both sides, those who plow with the diesel and those with the gasoline models.

The gasser MSRP is $56915 and the diesel is $68305. Both trucks are XLT's with the FX4 package and they are both pretty loaded with options. Both are also SuperCrew trucks.

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Old Feb 18, 2021 | 07:58 AM
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Originally Posted by RGrew176
My son currently has a 2017 F-250 SuperCrew with the 6.7 diesel. It's his main ride but a business vehicle. Anyway he's been having a few issues lately that are starting to nickle and dime him. He is close to a decision to upgrade to a 2021 model. One of the area dealers has a few Superduties in stock or in transit. Being that he lives in Traverse City and they get a lot of snow up there he also has to plow quite a bit.

I remember reading somewhere that diesels are not recommended for snowplowing. Can't remember why the author of that article came to that conclusion. He's looking at two trucks. One has the 6.7 turbo-diesel and the other one the 7.3 Godzilla gasser. Which would be the better truck considering he has to plow a lot of snow for 5 to 5 1/2 months of the year. Would you go gas or diesel. I would like to hear from both sides, those who plow with the diesel and those with the gasoline models.

The gasser MSRP is $59105 and the diesel is $68305. Both trucks are XLT's with the FX4 package and they are both pretty loaded with options. Both are also SuperCrew trucks.

Looking forward to your opinions.
You might want to look downstate. Bill brown,varsity and Seymour have trucks.
 
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Old Feb 18, 2021 | 08:02 AM
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What kind of mileage can one expect from the 7.3 gasser with a 3.55 rear end. Will the plow setup mount transfer from the 2017 to the 2021 or will he need to put in a new mounting system for his plow.
 
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Old Feb 18, 2021 | 08:05 AM
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I live near Buffalo, NY and own both gas and diesel. I run my diesel for the most part of the year, but I drive the salty winter and plow with gas.
Obviously, fuel issues in our country are easier with gas, and considering your plow may weight over 1,000lbs, the gas engine front end weight is cut in half.

If I had to choose one single engine for plowing and yearly driving, it would be the diesel.
90%of the guys I know plow with diesel without issue, mostly because our fuel here is pretty stable and winterized.
 
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Old Feb 18, 2021 | 08:13 AM
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I am a Ford retiree so I will be able to get him the A-plan pricing on either vehicle. That will save him some more money. Looking at the various SuperDuty trucks Ford does not put much in the way of incentives on them like they do with the F-150's. Almost a month ago I bought a new 2020 leftover F-150 XLT FX4 for $38640 with all the discounts. It stickered for over $54.
 
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Old Feb 18, 2021 | 08:27 AM
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I am a Ford retiree so I will be able to get him the A-plan pricing on either vehicle. That will save him some more money. Looking at the various SuperDuty trucks Ford does not put much in the way of incentives on them like they do with the F-150's. Almost a month ago I bought a new 2020 leftover F-150 XLT FX4 for $38640 with all the discounts. It stickered for over $54.
It’s a tough time to get a deal on a Super Duty. The plant has 150k orders to build as of now, so inventory/incentives may not be happening time soon..
 
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Old Feb 18, 2021 | 09:48 AM
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What kind of mileage can one expect from the 7.3 gasser with a 3.55 rear end. Will the plow setup mount transfer from the 2017 to the 2021 or will he need to put in a new mounting system for his plow.
I have a 350, 7.3 SCLB with 4.30's and my average in town is 12.5. if you go to the fuelly.com website and search. Most are getting the same 3.55 or 4.30's.
 
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Old Feb 18, 2021 | 04:01 PM
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My son currently has a 2017 F-250 SuperCrew with the 6.7 diesel. It's his main ride but a business vehicle. Anyway he's been having a few issues lately that are starting to nickle and dime him. He is close to a decision to upgrade to a 2021 model. One of the area dealers has a few Superduties in stock or in transit. Being that he lives in Traverse City and they get a lot of snow up there he also has to plow quite a bit.

I remember reading somewhere that diesels are not recommended for snowplowing. Can't remember why the author of that article came to that conclusion. He's looking at two trucks. One has the 6.7 turbo-diesel and the other one the 7.3 Godzilla gasser. Which would be the better truck considering he has to plow a lot of snow for 5 to 5 1/2 months of the year. Would you go gas or diesel. I would like to hear from both sides, those who plow with the diesel and those with the gasoline models.

The gasser MSRP is $56915 and the diesel is $68305. Both trucks are XLT's with the FX4 package and they are both pretty loaded with options. Both are also SuperCrew trucks.

Looking forward to your opinions.

The difference in price between those two trucks indicates there is more than just different engines involved. When comparing the diesel to the 7.3 gas the MSRP price difference between two otherwise identically equipped trucks is $8800. Difference you actually pay will be less.
 
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Old Feb 18, 2021 | 04:30 PM
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Either should work just fine. I plow my lot with a 2019 F250 and a 6.2. Western poly v plow. No issues and no lack of power. Get around 5-7 mpg plowing.
 
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Old Feb 18, 2021 | 07:45 PM
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I'd imagine because idling/slow speed is the #1 way to kill a modern day diesel engine. Gonna be a lot of sub 1500 rpm work done snow plowing.

I traded my winter work truck diesel for a gas, mileage is about half what I got with the diesel (4 vs 8), until you figure the long drives I had to take for no other reason other than to clean the DPF. Sure is nice starting up at -5 with no issue and going after a minute with the gas and no worries of gelling. Plus can let it idle for as long as I want.
 
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Originally Posted by George C
It’s a tough time to get a deal on a Super Duty. The plant has 150k orders to build as of now, so inventory/incentives may not be happening time soon..
No wonder I have had a VIN for a month but my order is still in processing. screen shot from the dealers computer showed my build date week of 2/22 but I would bet my (non existent ) truck that it won't happen.
 
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Old Feb 19, 2021 | 08:58 AM
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No wonder I have had a VIN for a month but my order is still in processing. screen shot from the dealers computer showed my build date week of 2/22 but I would bet my (non existent ) truck that it won't happen.
It's frustrating isn't it . . .
 
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Old Feb 19, 2021 | 09:01 AM
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No wonder I have had a VIN for a month but my order is still in processing. screen shot from the dealers computer showed my build date week of 2/22 but I would bet my (non existent ) truck that it won't happen.
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Old Feb 19, 2021 | 12:20 PM
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1500 rpm on a diesel engine is not doing damage, its working, higher boost, mine with 3.55s is under that going down the highway 65-70 mph, and can be pulling max load at that, at almost 30 lbs boost. Its all about coolant temp, engine oil pressure and temperature of the transmission.

Don't feel low rpm is idling and going to cause issues on a diesel. As long as its moving, working, pushing snow, hauling a load, towing weight, its not causing damage, its what it is designed for.

I would not be shy about using a diesel for its intended purposes to the OP.
 
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Old Feb 19, 2021 | 05:25 PM
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Cool.

I doubt he is plowing snow at 65mph or 30lbs of boost, nor will it get to full operating temp.

But I only have tens of thousands of miles at slow speed diesel operating to go by.
 
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