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Old Jan 28, 2021 | 12:54 PM
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Towing Outback 330RL

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I have a 2017 F350 6.7 CCSB. I just upgraded my camper to a keystone outback 330 RL - Travel trailer. I tried this on the Keystone forum with no response. Almost like folks are scared report what they’re towing with.

anyway I was just wondering how this camper tows? I’m not concerned so much about the weight but rather the length.

Length 37’ 11”
GVWR 10,500

It’s 6 feet longer than my previous travel trailer. I don’t drive over 65 mph when I’m towing. Does anyone tow this rig with a similar vehicle and how was it? Any suggestions on which sway/wdh works best with this long a camper?

Thanks for your help
 
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Old Jan 29, 2021 | 06:22 AM
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The 330 RL was the trailer the wife wanted, very nice open floor plan and decor.
Due to parking limitations beside the house we settled for the Outback 252urs, 30 footer.

You certainly have the appropriate tow vehicle so simply add a formidable WDH like an
Equalizer, Anderson, Blue Ox or Hensley to name a few and you'll be good to go.
 
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Old Jan 29, 2021 | 08:01 AM
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Given the overhang after the rear wheels, good luck getting into any area without dragging. No experience with such trailer, but on RV Forums, when people get into this length, every single person prefers a 5th wheel for many reasons, and stability is certainly one of them.
edit: if this is a tow to your favorite summer campground, it's one thing. If it's a tow around for great size and place to sleep, it's a whole nother thing.
 
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Old Jan 29, 2021 | 09:28 AM
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The weight doesn't bother me. My bumper pull toy hauler has a GVWR of 11k. But the length of that thing would worry me. You have enough truck for the job. But in a high side wind situation, it's likely to be a bit unstable. I'm glad I don't have to park it.
 
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Old Jan 29, 2021 | 09:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Kellem
The 330 RL was the trailer the wife wanted, very nice open floor plan and decor.
Due to parking limitations beside the house we settled for the Outback 252urs, 30 footer.

You certainly have the appropriate tow vehicle so simply add a formidable WDH like an
Equalizer, Anderson, Blue Ox or Hensley to name a few and you'll be good to go.
Thank you - same here the wife picked this one out over all of the fifth wheeler‘s I brought to her attention. It is a nice floorplan spacious the outdoor kitchen is awesome.

best regards
 
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Old Jan 29, 2021 | 11:47 AM
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Hi all

I have a 2017 F350 6.7 CCSB. I just upgraded my camper to a keystone outback 330 RL - Travel trailer. I tried this on the Keystone forum with no response. Almost like folks are scared report what they’re towing with.

anyway I was just wondering how this camper tows? I’m not concerned so much about the weight but rather the length.

Length 37’ 11”
GVWR 10,500

It’s 6 feet longer than my previous travel trailer. I don’t drive over 65 mph when I’m towing. Does anyone tow this rig with a similar vehicle and how was it? Any suggestions on which sway/wdh works best with this long a camper?

Thanks for your help

My setup isn't exactly apples to apples with yours but I tow a '14 Jayco Eagle Premier 338RETS TT behind my '05 Excursion. The EX has a short-ish 137" wheelbase and the scale weight of the TT is just a tick under 12K lbs, the TT measures 41' from the front of my Hensley Arrow hitch to the rear bumper (without the bikes or kayaks on the TT rear hitch). The trailer has been upgraded with 7,000lb axles (up from 5,200lbs) and 16" Load Range G Sailun S637 ST tires on high pressure rated 8 lug aluminum wheels (from 15" Load Range D from the factory ). The Hensley Arrow sway elimination WD hitch keeps the EX and TT very well behaved, no sway ever, even in decent crosswinds, the entire rig moves around like a single unit vs tail wagging the dog. We have logged over 36K towing miles with this combo all over the East, from FL to Canada and West to AR so far without a hiccup. The EX is a V-10, so with its unquenchable thirst (8/9 MPG highway towing) I frequently enter and exit regular gas stations along our routes (which seems to be a big issue for some folks) without any drama and just a bit of patience and care. I have had to back out of a fuel stop twice, once at a station with a very large lot but very poor pump island placement and once at a small town station that was just too tight for the 61' EX/TT combo to navigate cleanly out forward after topping off, fortunately my Bride is an excellent spotter (we were both Firefighters and apparatus drivers where a spotter was required for all reversing, so giving and understanding good hand signals is a great asset). Our TT has pretty good ground clearance, even better now with the heavier axles and bigger tires and has never drug the rear on the ground. I too try to limit my highway towing speed to 65 MPH (maybe goose it a little bit prior to a grade climb to help the 2V V-10 4R100 some).
I think with your F-350 you will be perfectly fine with any of the better quality and performing WD setups with built-in sway control (Reese Dual Cam, Equalizer, Blue Ox, etc....) or elimination (Pro Pride, Hensley Arrow), just be sure to take the time to get the hitch properly setup and dialed in to enjoy the best performance out of it.
 
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Old Jan 29, 2021 | 02:58 PM
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I pull a Grand Design (315RLTS) trailer with the same length. I had only a slight bit of sway when it was windy, but travel a good bit so decided to upgrade to a Hensley Hitch last year. I don't go over 65 and it pulls like a dream.

You do have to be mindful of the long overhang when making turns.
 
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Old Jan 30, 2021 | 09:33 AM
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Originally Posted by WE3ZS
My setup isn't exactly apples to apples with yours but I tow a '14 Jayco Eagle Premier 338RETS TT behind my '05 Excursion. The EX has a short-ish 137" wheelbase and the scale weight of the TT is just a tick under 12K lbs, the TT measures 41' from the front of my Hensley Arrow hitch to the rear bumper (without the bikes or kayaks on the TT rear hitch). The trailer has been upgraded with 7,000lb axles (up from 5,200lbs) and 16" Load Range G Sailun S637 ST tires on high pressure rated 8 lug aluminum wheels (from 15" Load Range D from the factory ). The Hensley Arrow sway elimination WD hitch keeps the EX and TT very well behaved, no sway ever, even in decent crosswinds, the entire rig moves around like a single unit vs tail wagging the dog. We have logged over 36K towing miles with this combo all over the East, from FL to Canada and West to AR so far without a hiccup. The EX is a V-10, so with its unquenchable thirst (8/9 MPG highway towing) I frequently enter and exit regular gas stations along our routes (which seems to be a big issue for some folks) without any drama and just a bit of patience and care. I have had to back out of a fuel stop twice, once at a station with a very large lot but very poor pump island placement and once at a small town station that was just too tight for the 61' EX/TT combo to navigate cleanly out forward after topping off, fortunately my Bride is an excellent spotter (we were both Firefighters and apparatus drivers where a spotter was required for all reversing, so giving and understanding good hand signals is a great asset). Our TT has pretty good ground clearance, even better now with the heavier axles and bigger tires and has never drug the rear on the ground. I too try to limit my highway towing speed to 65 MPH (maybe goose it a little bit prior to a grade climb to help the 2V V-10 4R100 some).
I think with your F-350 you will be perfectly fine with any of the better quality and performing WD setups with built-in sway control (Reese Dual Cam, Equalizer, Blue Ox, etc....) or elimination (Pro Pride, Hensley Arrow), just be sure to take the time to get the hitch properly setup and dialed in to enjoy the best performance out of it.
Thank you - I appreciate the thought and detail that you put in to respond to this thread.

much appreciated this is very helpful. Safe travels my friend happy camping.
 
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Old Jan 30, 2021 | 09:34 AM
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I pull a Grand Design (315RLTS) trailer with the same length. I had only a slight bit of sway when it was windy, but travel a good bit so decided to upgrade to a Hensley Hitch last year. I don't go over 65 and it pulls like a dream.

You do have to be mindful of the long overhang when making turns.
I really like those grand design layouts. I appreciate your response very helpful now I just have to say which hitch I want to go with. 😂
 
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Old Feb 5, 2021 | 12:03 PM
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My KZ connect is the same length. I pull it with my 250 6.7l no problem. Yeah it's long so backing up is fun, but so far it's not been prohibitive. I have an equalizer WDH.
 
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Hi all

I have a 2017 F350 6.7 CCSB. I just upgraded my camper to a keystone outback 330 RL - Travel trailer. I tried this on the Keystone forum with no response. Almost like folks are scared report what they’re towing with.

anyway I was just wondering how this camper tows? I’m not concerned so much about the weight but rather the length.

Length 37’ 11”
GVWR 10,500

It’s 6 feet longer than my previous travel trailer. I don’t drive over 65 mph when I’m towing. Does anyone tow this rig with a similar vehicle and how was it? Any suggestions on which sway/wdh works best with this long a camper?

Thanks for your help

2019 Keystone Outback 300ML, 34’ 9” 8500lbs

I tow with a Equalizer WDH with 1200lb bars.

Trailer had a gross weight at 9500lbs.

Really not a big deal behind the truck, but I have not been in any hills yet!


 
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Old Feb 7, 2021 | 01:53 PM
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2019 Keystone Outback 300ML, 34’ 9” 8500lbs

I tow with a Equalizer WDH with 1200lb bars.

Trailer had a gross weight at 9500lbs.

Really not a big deal behind the truck, but I have not been in any hills yet!
love it! Thank you
 
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Old Feb 7, 2021 | 06:02 PM
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Just a comment on here with long TT's and WDH. I have seen many will disconnect the bars or chains depending upon your setup at the campgrounds. They do this disconnect so that there is less binding to make those sharp turns when backing into the camp site.

I would suggest some practicing before you need to do the job.
 
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Old Feb 7, 2021 | 08:22 PM
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Just a comment on here with long TT's and WDH. I have seen many will disconnect the bars or chains depending upon your setup at the campgrounds. They do this disconnect so that there is less binding to make those sharp turns when backing into the camp site.

I would suggest some practicing before you need to do the job.
good advice - I appreciate this. Thank you
 
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I disconnect my WDH "bars" when I know the terrain is going to be odd enough that the truck and trailer would end up at angles of say more than 10 degrees. I've never measured the angle, but I know a bad one when I see it. This is on single lane BLM or Forest Service roads where there is no way to approach the bump other than straight on.

I remember reading on a non-Ford forum where a guy thought his truck frame was bent by going over a very large speed hump. I don't know if the speed hump was the actual culprit or even if the WDH was simply not setup correctly, or if the damage was from something else. He had pictures of the speed hump, so I don't think he drove very far before he noticed a problem.
 
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