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Old Jan 30, 2021 | 11:29 AM
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Bare with me here as I can sometimes be a little " thick " lol . But if you are driving the tires into the ground creating more traction should that not relate to more transfer and less smoke shows ?
 
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Old Jan 30, 2021 | 03:30 PM
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Bare with me here as I can sometimes be a little " thick " lol . But if you are driving the tires into the ground creating more traction should that not relate to more transfer and less smoke shows ?
Haha. You are far from "thick" and your reasoning is correct. This is all a theory or baseline. The fact that the body rises in the back slightly limits the amount of weight transfer "possibly" making the rear end lighter which "may" cause wheel spin. It is very complex and confusing at times. There are a lot of things you can do to limit the lifting with good antisquat numbers.
 
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Old Jan 30, 2021 | 04:58 PM
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Ok just checking my brain function . I should have asked where on the island you are ?
 
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Old Jan 30, 2021 | 05:31 PM
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Ok just checking my brain function . I should have asked where on the island you are ?
Nanaimo or as some call it, Surrey by the Sea.
 
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Old Jan 30, 2021 | 05:43 PM
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Picked my coupe up from Campbell River and drove it back to Manitoba .
 
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Old Feb 2, 2021 | 06:37 PM
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Just an update. Didn't want you all to think I forgot about you. I now have all the brackets permanently welded in. Went back and rechecked the anti squat calculation and ended up with 105%. I think that will work. Now I need to cut an mock up the rear coilover upper mounting bar so I can see what length coilovers I need. I have been busy with ranch stuff the last couple days so other than getting the stuff welded in, not much progress.
 
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Old Feb 2, 2021 | 08:49 PM
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Excellent . This is the kind of thread that helps , informs and educates all of us and helps those that are considering it some insight . Thank you .
 
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Old Feb 3, 2021 | 05:49 AM
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Excellent . This is the kind of thread that helps , informs and educates all of us and helps those that are considering it some insight . Thank you .
Thanks EBEAR. Couple things that come to mind that I happened to catch that other should look out for. Due to the frame I am working with, I happened to notice after I had tacked in the upper front control arm support that runs across the frame (I used a piece of 2 1/2 inch 1/4 inch square tubing) the drive shaft might hit this support at full suspension travel. I c-notched it and then welded 1/4 inch steel to beef up the C-notch. I took about an inch out of it. I now have 1/2 inch clearance when the axle hits the frame.

#2 I purchased a 96 explorer 3.73 limited slip back years ago when I first bought the truck. Wish I had bought the one that has the upper control arm brackets built into the pumpkin. This would have made the whole process go a lot easier. The explorer rear ends are NOT centered.

#3 When you run the upper control arms out to in on axle housing you really need to pay attention and don't bring the control arms all the way into the center front or they might interfere with the drive shaft at full suspension compression.

#4 Again when running the control arms out to in, you won't be able to get as much angle on the upper control arms as running them in to out. Since a I have a F4 frame and it is big/thick and wide. I c- notched the bottom flange (only) to be able to get a couple more degrees on the control arm angle. My brackets will slide right up through the little notch and clear by 1/2 inch.

#5 Let it be known that if you are welding above your neck, something IS gonna jump down the opening at your neck, run down your shirt, sit on top of your beer belly, and burn the H out of you.
 
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Old Feb 3, 2021 | 08:54 AM
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I always enjoyed the ones that landed in your ear . The sizzling sound is quite loud . LOL
 
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Old Feb 4, 2021 | 09:59 AM
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Hey purplewg, still would like to come look at the front end. Give me a shout.
 
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Old Feb 4, 2021 | 11:24 AM
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Hey purplewg, still would like to come look at the front end. Give me a shout.
I haven't forgot you. I just got busy. We will work out a time.
 
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Old Feb 4, 2021 | 01:31 PM
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Sounds great just give me a call.
 
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Old Mar 25, 2021 | 07:29 AM
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Just an update and one question. I have basically completed the triangulated 4 link install after waiting a month for backordered Viking coilovers. Just making up some brake lines for it now and then on to the other 50 things on my list. lol

I do have a question for those running 4 link. Are you using limit straps to prevent the coilovers from supporting the rear axle weight when lifting by the frame? Vikinng said to not let the shocks be the limiting support when lifting. At this point I am not sure how much suspension travel I have without the shocks installed. I guess I can disconnect them to see if the four link stops before the travel on the shocks is reached. Thanks

 
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Old Mar 25, 2021 | 08:05 AM
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That's interesting I've never heard of not wanting the shocks to be the support as virtually every type of suspension out there uses the shocks as the limiters . The shocks are going to fully extend periodically when driving at any rate and all that I'm aware of have internal rubber bumpers . I wonder if they are just throwing it in there so they have an " out " for failures ?
 
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Old Mar 25, 2021 | 08:16 AM
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Hey, looking good. Keep posting progress and issues. I'm learning lots as I'm just behind you on my build. I just got the correct 4 link arm lengths in as they had sent the wrong ones the first time. Still waiting on spindles and brake for the front that are back ordered until next month now. TCI sent me the wrong ones the first time on those too.
 
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