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Old Jan 4, 2021 | 09:41 AM
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Truck purchase question

I am looking to purchase a 2021 F150 or F250 to haul a 31' travel trailer that weighs about 6500 lbs. with a 775 lb hitch weight. I have been told the F150 with the 3.5 EcoBoost with 400 HP and 500 ft/lb torque will do it all day long and even up mountains no issue?????? I want a truck that will last for years to come with hauling this travel trailer so will it be ample and easily do this without undue wear and tear on the engine and transmission or should I look to the F250 HD series with either the 6.2 or 7.3? The difference in price of those two engines is roughly $2k so the 7.3 would be the ticket on that end I believe.

But like I said, the F150 3.5 would be a savings of $10k but if people are having issues with them doing the job on such things like pulling Travel Trailers then I want to look to something else.

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Old Jan 4, 2021 | 10:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Germanrazor
I am looking to purchase a 2021 F150 or F250 to haul a 31' travel trailer that weighs about 6500 lbs. with a 775 lb hitch weight. I have been told the F150 with the 3.5 EcoBoost with 400 HP and 500 ft/lb torque will do it all day long and even up mountains no issue?????? I want a truck that will last for years to come with hauling this travel trailer so will it be ample and easily do this without undue wear and tear on the engine and transmission or should I look to the F250 HD series with either the 6.2 or 7.3? The difference in price of those two engines is roughly $2k so the 7.3 would be the ticket on that end I believe.

But like I said, the F150 3.5 would be a savings of $10k but if people are having issues with them doing the job on such things like pulling Travel Trailers then I want to look to something else.

Thank you.
I'd highly recommend F250 with the 7.3 so you can ease your mind about the F150's shortcomings.......it's payload.
I have a 30ft 7600 lb trailer and like to haul with full fresh water tank and bed full of gear, this requires a 3/4 ton.

Its always wise to make sure the tow vehicle can handle the GVWR of trailer and 12 - 15% of that as tounge weight.
Hope you find a truck.
 
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Old Jan 4, 2021 | 10:39 AM
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I agree that payload will be the issue you need to pay attention to, not powertrain.

I would double check that 6500 and 775 lbs. Most RV brochures and dealers talk about dry weights, not fully loaded weights. If you use the GVW rating of the trailer, and then 15% of that for tongue weight, you are usually closer to real-world scenarios. I know that my family and firewood I put about 900 lbs of "stuff" into the truck, plus the tongue weight. Easy to be over the rating on an F150 unless you special order the quite-rate HDPP truck.

I've had a good mix of half and 3/4 ton trucks, and if I was mostly towing, I would buy the 3/4 ton truck for sure. Current use is 95% unloaded driving, so I am comfortable with the compromise of the half ton.
 
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Old Jan 4, 2021 | 03:31 PM
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How much towing that camper will you do? Will the truck be used as a daily driver when not towing? I had a 31' camper and tow with a 250 and it wiggles some in wind and passing semi's, but handles the camper well. I do not drive my truck as a daily and do not want to as it rides stiff and loves to drink! If you are just towing on occasion and use the truck as a daily, the F150 would do well with a proper WDH. But as previously pointed out, what are going to be your GCWR's and where will the 150 measure up within those? Rule of thumb is have more truck than you need. Besides, you never know when you may decide to go with a bigger camper. I did. Went from a 31' to a 37'.
 
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Old Jan 4, 2021 | 03:53 PM
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So the reality is the 3.5 will have no problem pulling that trailer and will do it easily. The problem is finding the correct F150 that has enough payload.
 
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Old Jan 4, 2021 | 04:04 PM
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I agree to get the most you can for future endeavors. My question to you would be also, why did Ford design and build the 3.5 EcoBoost twin turbo with so much payload and towing if it would not work???? Just asking....LOL

If you spec out the F150 with the 3.5 EcoBoost with the 3200 payload option and the over 13000 lb. towing capacity then would that be okay. The travel trailer pulling will be every so often on weekend ventures and such and maybe a few times of year a week or more. The truck will be a daily driver at best.......mainly a weekend driver.

Yes, maybe down the road a 5th wheel then that 7.3 would be the ticket!

I AGREE 100% on buy more than you need. I just wonder if in a pinch the 3.5 twin turbo with the payload and towing mentioned above would work and easily. There has to be someone here who has this truck I would think......LOL. Then again, maybe not.
 
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Old Jan 4, 2021 | 04:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Germanrazor
But like I said, the F150 3.5 would be a savings of $10k...
If price is a big criteria, maybe shop around more and wait for the big sales deals and end of month specials. For the 2019 Black Friday sale I found an almost identical F150 and F250, both configured how I prefer, both same color, the F250 had a few extras over the F150, both had just about the same MSRP, and both had the same discount.
 
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Old Jan 4, 2021 | 04:16 PM
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Originally Posted by nitebreeze
If price is a big criteria, maybe shop around more and wait for the big sales deals and end of month specials. For the 2019 Black Friday sale I found an almost identical F150 and F250, both configured how I prefer, both same color, the F250 had a few extras over the F150, both had just about the same MSRP, and both had the same discount.
I would love to luck into one of those deals. The 6.2 buying new would be out as you can get the 7.3 for just 2 grand more.....now that is a no-brainer for sure. I heard both engines are good but given that small price point I am surprised many 6.2's are bought new.
 
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Old Jan 4, 2021 | 04:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Germanrazor
My question to you would be also, why did Ford design and build the 3.5 EcoBoost twin turbo with so much payload and towing if it would not work???? Just asking....LOL.
I think Ford has designed a package that sells well. A truck with too much power and soft suspension is pretty popular. Now the "real world" ability of the truck and what's printed on the brochure may not match up, but that's not unique to Ford in any way.

 
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Old Jan 4, 2021 | 05:14 PM
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"Towing" is only part of the equation.

Stopping is the other major factor..

Sway is the third factor. The F250 has more braking power, more weight and more rigid suspension...

Of course the cost of the two should be compared.

Just a few thoughts.

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Old Jan 4, 2021 | 05:32 PM
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I have a decent F150 for towing. I would highly recommend you go the F250 route. I feel my F150 would pull your trailer around, I feel the length would play havoc at times with it for sure. I would do a F250 longer bed, you will be happy you did so. Having said that, how much do you plan to tow? The trailer you want is what weight loaded? and that published tongue weight will be a lot more after it's loaded, batteries, propane, a WDH, etc. Personally, I feel any trailer over 24-26 feet box should not be pulled by a F150. I just don't feel they are planted well enough. And like you, I hope my truck last 10 years and 200k miles well maintained.
 
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Old Jan 4, 2021 | 06:41 PM
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Thank you all for the replies. I will look to F250 for sure. I guess I wanted to rule out a cheaper viable alternative if it could be done. So F250!
 
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Old Jan 4, 2021 | 07:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Germanrazor
Thank you all for the replies. I will look to F250 for sure. I guess I wanted to rule out a cheaper viable alternative if it could be done. So F250!
Good choice and you won't regret it. I would guess that the loaded tongue weight on that camper will be in the 900-1100lb range. An F-150 with 3200lbs of payload will have the max tow package and probably be a single cab long bed, lol.
 
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Old Jan 4, 2021 | 09:56 PM
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Originally Posted by hobohilton
"Towing" is only part of the equation. Stopping is the other major factor.. Sway is the third factor. The F250 has more braking power, more weight and more rigid suspension...
Of course the cost of the two should be compared. Just a few thoughts. Hobo
I don't disagree. If Towing is the primary duty, then Super Duty is the right tool.

When the duty is split, you end up making compromises one way or the other.
 
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Old Jan 5, 2021 | 08:26 AM
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I AGREE 100% on buy more than you need. I just wonder if in a pinch the 3.5 twin turbo with the payload and towing mentioned above would work and easily
Many years ago, I had the same dilemma. I decided to purchase the truck that met "todays" requirements and saved a few thou. Within a year, "things" changed. I can't tell you how many times I said to myself; "I knew I should have purchased the other truck"! My upfront "savings" quickly evaporated when I ended up purchasing the truck I should have purchased in the first place. Since then, and many trucks later, I've always had " more than enough" truck. In fact, If I didn't have the luxury of owning two trucks, my F-250 would be my daily driver.
 
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