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Old Dec 19, 2020 | 09:54 AM
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I have a 99 7.3 and when Im going between 65 and 70 every once and and a while it will start shaking in the back, I have had new tires put on checked u joints shocks and everything else I can think of but cant figure it out, it does not do it all the time and it does not do it with a load. Any help would be appreciated
 
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Old Dec 19, 2020 | 10:05 AM
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If it is speed related, it is likely a problem with the tire or wheel assembly. A friend just put OEM size nitto terra grapplers on his 2017 F250 and had bad shaking etc. Tire shop claimed his OEM wheels were faulty. BS. He took it to Ford, they re balanced all wheels and rotated. Still shook. He went back to the shop and made them take the tires back and replace with Michelins. Problem gone.

Tires do get manufactured out of round and too far out of balance.

 
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Old Dec 19, 2020 | 07:41 PM
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I have replaced tires several times so I know its not the tires
 
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Old Dec 19, 2020 | 09:50 PM
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Does your E brake work well? A leaking rear axle seal can contaminate the E brake shoes, and then they won't work well. I could see grungy shoes getting grabby if they get hot and cook off.

Just a guess.
 
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Old Dec 19, 2020 | 10:18 PM
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Not claiming to have your answer but the previous owner of one of my pickups must have slid into a curb sideways pretty hard once. I was chasing an intermittent tire-speed shake in the rear at highway speeds for a long time; rebalances, rotations, different sets of wheels/tires. I finally put the rear on jacks, removed the wheels, and ran the thing in drive just to see the rotor on the right rear wobbling ever so slightly. The WHOLE wheel mounting surface was experiencing runout. I removed the rotor and ran it again and found that the hub was running true but the actual wheel mounting flange was bent. I replaced the hub with a wrecking yard part from ebay and my problem went away.

A minute amount of runout at the center of the wheel mounting surface equals a lot of movement at the tread surface.

Again, not saying it's your problem but to hint that it could be a lot of things.
 
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Old Dec 20, 2020 | 10:41 AM
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Look up Long Bed Bounce, see if that matches your symptoms.

Is your truck lifted at all?

I don't think it's tire or rim, those would be more repeatable and not go away with load.
 
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Old Dec 20, 2020 | 11:18 AM
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Originally Posted by aawlberninf350
Does your E brake work well? A leaking rear axle seal can contaminate the E brake shoes, and then they won't work well. I could see grungy shoes getting grabby if they get hot and cook off.

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havnt tried the e brake so I dont know if it does or not
 
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Old Dec 20, 2020 | 11:19 AM
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Originally Posted by cleatus12r
Not claiming to have your answer but the previous owner of one of my pickups must have slid into a curb sideways pretty hard once. I was chasing an intermittent tire-speed shake in the rear at highway speeds for a long time; rebalances, rotations, different sets of wheels/tires. I finally put the rear on jacks, removed the wheels, and ran the thing in drive just to see the rotor on the right rear wobbling ever so slightly. The WHOLE wheel mounting surface was experiencing runout. I removed the rotor and ran it again and found that the hub was running true but the actual wheel mounting flange was bent. I replaced the hub with a wrecking yard part from ebay and my problem went away.

A minute amount of runout at the center of the wheel mounting surface equals a lot of movement at the tread surface.

Again, not saying it's your problem but to hint that it could be a lot of things.
wouldnt it do it all the time if that was the problem?
 
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Old Dec 20, 2020 | 11:21 AM
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Originally Posted by kbeefy
Look up Long Bed Bounce, see if that matches your symptoms.

Is your truck lifted at all?

I don't think it's tire or rim, those would be more repeatable and not go away with load.
no its not lifted
 
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Old Dec 20, 2020 | 03:39 PM
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wouldnt it do it all the time if that was the problem?
It did. But it would come and go every few hundred yards and shorter distances around corners (intermittent) and I'll guess that it had to with timing of the left rear tire and any little imbalance it may have had or slight runout in the other wheel. It wasn't horrible but it was annoying.
 
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Originally Posted by cleatus12r
It did. But it would come and go every few hundred yards and shorter distances around corners (intermittent) and I'll guess that it had to with timing of the left rear tire and any little imbalance it may have had or slight runout in the other wheel. It wasn't horrible but it was annoying.
there is no specific distance on mine but it does happen between 65 and 70
 
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Have you tried rebalancing your wheels and tires?
 
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I have rotated the tires and it still happens
 
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Old Dec 21, 2020 | 09:25 AM
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If one needs rebalancing they all need rebalancing.
 
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Old Dec 21, 2020 | 10:43 AM
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I get a lot of truck shake on segmented freeways, the length of the truck hits just right at certain speeds to cause it! I have to either speed up or slow down to stop it, prefer to speed up!
 
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