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Old Oct 24, 2003 | 11:51 AM
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A crazy neighbor

I have a crazy neighbor.

She moved here a few years ago. Had her car break down and asked for rides from everyone in the vicinity for about a year. A whole year. I, at the time, had the attitude that I as a man should help out, and feel good about it. So I drove her around sometimes.

She is a welfare person and gets every assistance you can think of. She is a user and manipulator and will take take take as much as she can, and if you don't give, she finds no value in you whatsoever. Her husband left her because of her obnoxious behavior and disrespect towards people.

She stole a couple of things from me, when we moved west a few years ago (and ultimately came back), she stole some lawn furniture, like a few picnic tables. I almost called 911 on her but she somehow manipulated me out of it. Wish I had, in retrospect.

The year after that, she stole things from my garden. In the spring, I offered to help her with gardening, in fact dug out a small garden for her, like 6x8' so she could plant a few tomatoes, etc - and more importantly teach her kids good work ethic. Or course that went nowhere, when she can get food from Walmart via food stamps. Now when *my* garden got huge and I had an overabundance of tomatoes, watermelons, squash, etc. she stole some of that. As I knew she would. I put a fence around it but she got in anyway. I wouldn't have found out but her kids told me. I confronted her and she came up with excuses like you have 40 tomatoe plants, why do you need so many.

Then there was that incident where the idiot hit a deer, lost her headlight on our private driveway (which we share with her) and kept driving over it. I told her to pick it up and she wouldn't, so the glass/plastic got progressively smaller, being crushed by her tires. Eventually I had to pick it up and it was a lot harder than just picking up a few major pieces. Jesus, what a moron.

I cannot even believe all the stupid things she has done. This summer our dog had puppies and one of her kids came to our house to look at them. I was working on my car at the time, and was kind of under the car so they didn't see me. I get up, and tell him it is not polite to do this, you need to ask permission and kick him out. The next day, she comes out screaming and yelling at me that I will not talk to her kids this way. So she is raising human ticks in her own image. The same insolent, uncontrollable people as she is. The day after that she accuses me cutting her tire comes up here and asks me to pay for it. I say "What??" - she said that I got mad after yesterday and slashed her tire. So she is a mental case.

This woman is utterly out of control and isn't governed by normalcy common in society, like respect and decency.

Right now before my eyes the next generation of welfare people is raised. For some reason she hates men. She had a good husband but her ran away in horror and is scared of her so much he won't even come to see his kids. One time he did (Once in 3 years) and she kicked him out when he said something. So I feel sorry for that fellow.

Then she acts like nothing happened, stops by the house to ask for directions somewhere. I tell her that I cannot talk to her ever again. A few more months go by and she tries to initiate conversation when she seems at Walmart, gas stations, etc. (Small town). I don't even look her way. Finally, she manipulated me into conversation again. I start talking with her. Ask her why she kicked her ex-husband out when he came to see his kids and she comes up with more excuses. I say interfering with his visitation rights, further traumatizing her kids who haven't see him for 3 years. I see she hasn't changed at all. Anyway, I tell her I am very sorry if I ever said anything to her children and the next day she invites me to one of her kid's birthday party. I knew that every time she contacted me, she wanted something from me and this time was no exception. Turns out she wanted to bring horses onto the property, the guy with the horses didn't have a large enough pick up and she wanted to use my F250 truck to tow the horse trailer here. Naturally without compensation, she would rather die than pay someone. I was out of town anyway so I couldn't make it. I told her repeatedly not to associate with me in any way, and like an alcoholic, she cannot help but ask ask ask and take, it seems to be the whole purpose of her life. She feels the world owes her a lot.

She hasn't worked in years. She on welfare barely making ends meet and recently bought a new Toyota. Years ago, I offered to drive her around, find a good deal on something under $5K which I could check out mechanically but she refused. I think at times she doesn't have gas to put in this car. But, it is new. She told me she deserved it.

How do I keep her off my property? I am about ready to write a notice to her and stick it in her door such as 1. You are not welcome on my property. 2. I do not wish to be contacted by you in any way. 3. You are not to remove any items from my property. I will also contact out landlord and request her to tell her not to bother us.
We will be renting this house/land to some people and I expect that after we leave but before they move in, she will find a way to take something, so we won't know it is missing and the tenants won't know it was taken. In fact, I saw her stop by recently to check things out. Of course she pretended she had a question.

On top of all this delinquent behavior, she is a Christian! Goes to church religiously every sunday, dresses her kids very well, and superficially she does the right thing, only if you get to know her you find out what a lunatic she is. What sickens me is that despite all of that behavior, she acts like she is a proper person with diplomacy and act but it is all a cover-up.
 

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Old Oct 24, 2003 | 12:10 PM
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I'd say you'd probably do yourself and her a favor by video taping some of her freakouts. maybe just keep it where it can see what's going on, but she isn't aware of the camera. With all that has gone on and her instability, you never know when she might turn on you. For instance what if she had reported you for the tire slashing that you didn't do. at least this way you have some evidence that this is a long ongoing problem and that she is a freak. I'd also include in your letter that you intend to call her in for trespassing the next time she comes on to your property. Call your local law inforcement agency and ask if there is anything else (maybe a restraining order that doesn't allow her within so many feet of you) to keep her away from you. the most important thing....FOLLOW THRU with any thing you suggest to her you will do.

its amazing what people will do... I too used to have a neighbor that did all kinds of crazy stuff like that...even broke into our house, stole some of my clothes, but the cops didn't do anything. We started calling at each problem and it helped establish a record of problems. keep your eyes open and be straight forward with your intentions to her.

and finally...just because she proclaims to be a Christian...just because she goes to church does not maker her a Christian. (don't want to start a war or anything, but I don't think your sterotype is good either.)
 
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Old Oct 24, 2003 | 12:19 PM
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They're out there man, they're out there.

My aunt is the same way. She mooched so much from my grandma that she's been written out of the will. And my grandma is worth a ton.
 
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Old Oct 24, 2003 | 12:19 PM
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yeah, you have to hate those neighbors. I had the same ones for about 10 years, they lived in a trailer, then built a double wide there. They weren't that bad though, the kids were kind of annoying at times.

But they movied out....and these total lunatics moved in, these people were just ugly, mean, dogs. My neighbors sold the house to them, they drove out to their new house for a few days to get it ready, they came back and found that these new people had moved in...and threw all their stuff out on the lawn. Even though they had about 2 months left before they had to move out.

So somehow they settled that all out and these freaks moved in. They lived in white trash paradise for about a month. I'd go outside and see the ugly, biker chick looking wife sunning herself next to the plastic wal-mart swimming pool. The guy was always at work or something at the time.

But i remember i was working on my car, and i had my dog outside. The dog was used to just walking over to the neighbors place, the neighbor kids used to play with him. So i hear this lady just freaking out. I look over there and my dog is standing on her lawn and this lady is just going nuts, she's screaming for help and saying it's going to kill her and all this. The whole time the dog is just staring at her with his head cocked. He never made an aggressive mood or even barked.

So i called the dog over and i went to talk to her, but she was just manic. I honestly thing she has some kind of disorder, i really couldnt make anything out of what she was saying besides threatning that her husband is going to kill me. I just said whatever basically and while i was walking off the lady yells "and keep your dog off our lawn". yeah, you bet i will.

So fast forward a few months, these people are white trash so naturally they have about 300 animals. They have dogs, and cats, and these weird duck looking things. And all these animals make a habit of strolling on my lawn. No big deal to me...i got 38 acres of land, i could care less. Most of the time i see the guy outside, sometimes even telling his animals to go on my lawn. This guy is ugly, he's got a big beer gut, nasty, long, unwashed black hair. I'm sure he's just trying to get back at me for my dog coming on his lawn once, and he just wants me to start trouble with him. But i honestly dont care about it.

So one day one of his dogs comes up to my front porch, which is about 200 feet from his house. I let my dog outside without thinking about it and my dog immediatly starts barking and chases his dog. The funny thing was my dog chased his dog off my lawn, but stopped at my exact property line and came back.

Out of nowhere this guy starts screaming and shouting. He comes stomping out of his house and onto my lawn. I just sit on my porch and watch him come. He's screaming at me that he isnt going to take this, and he's going to beat my *** and all that while he's walking towards me. I just sit on my porch, kind of relaxed and smile at him.

When he gets up to me he isnt nearly as violent. He just starts saying that it isnt right that my dog runs onto his lawn. I agree with him, and say that it only happend once and i wont let it happen again. Then i tell him my dog didnt go on his lawn this time though, he just chased his dog off my lawn, i make it pretty clear that i dont care about it. You know...they're dogs, it happens.

So then this guy starts saying my dog did go on his lawn, he starts claiming to own about 2 acres of my land and all this. SO i disagree with him and he says he's going to stomp me. I say "oh just try it chubby". He gets visably taken aback then he just stammers "i'm...going to call the cops!". i say do whatever he feels like and go inside.

That was the first and last time i ever talked to that guy. Just from observing his property time to time i could see that his wife left him, and he must of lost his job. Because he mowed his lawn ALL day. It was the strangest thing, he'd get up around 8 in the morning and keep mowing until dark. This is only like a one and a half acre lawn too.

Then eventually the bank foreclosed on the place and he got lost. A buddy of mine eventually bought the place. I'm real glad to be rid of those people, they were just so trashy. And this dude just had to mow the lawn with his shirt off, showing his big gut and poorly drawn and faded tattoos to everyone.

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oh, i forgot about the best story with that guy. We own a pretty big chunk of wooded property, some of which is actually behind his house. This dude would always go out and shoot his pistol into it. Which i thought was pretty rude...i mean it wasnt his land he was shooting into, and how the hell does he know nobody is back there??

So anyway one day a few amish guys actually were back there, they were surveying the woods for timber. And this guy starts shooting. My brother knew they were back there and started yelling for this guy to stop. So this dude KEEPS shooting into the woods and yells something rude to him. My brother then starts running to this screaming for him to stop because there's people back there. He said this guy realized what he was saying...so this dude RAN into his house, came out seconds later, got in his car and just TOOK OFF. Must of been habit or something.

The amish guys later told us that they heard his shots hitting about 20 feet away from them. We were going to call the cops but the amish said they didnt want any trouble, and didnt want to get involved in it. so we just dropped it.

Oh, a funny thing was this guy, when he got laid off, put a big sign in his yard saying "vc's electrical motor repair". Whats funny about that is we live in a neighborhood where most people work at a delco plant that makes electric motors, so just about everyone knows how to work on one themselves. I guess he never bothered to study his location...

So theres my long neighbor story.
 
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Old Oct 24, 2003 | 12:57 PM
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It sounds like she has a personallity disorder. The thing that angers me the most is when I sit back and think, Yes, we are paying for these idiots. I personally think welfare should investiage on these people, Oh - you bought a NEW TOYOTA? No more hand outs for you.

Whitetrash have evolved, I guess, I find myself lucky to live in a neighborhood with hardworking people who have been nothing but nice to live next to.
 
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Old Oct 24, 2003 | 01:41 PM
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That's right, a new Camry. She is the most self-centered, egotistical person I've ever met. But you know, she hurts herself more than anyone else.

Agree about the personality disorder.

She doesn't understand verbal requests, so I am going to print something on a sheet of paper in big bold letters and tape it to her door.

Like PLEASE DO NOT TRESSPASS ON MY PROPERTY ANYMORE.

What sickens most of all is this superficial cover of niceness and fakeness. At least white trash are openly white trash, but this character can fool someone for a long time. She is a master manipulator.
 

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Old Oct 24, 2003 | 01:46 PM
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I would get a restraining order against her........Quick!
 
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Old Oct 24, 2003 | 01:55 PM
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I think she wants to hook up with you.

Nah, just kiddin'. A restraining order is a good idea, and report any time she violates it. That way, if and when something does happen, it will be clear that it has been going on a while.
 
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Old Oct 24, 2003 | 01:55 PM
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When my uncle was building his house the lady across the street cam over to introduce herself. Then when she found out they where going to build a house she told them they NEEDED to wait until she could have a conversation with the trees and rocks. When she came back she told them that the trees said they could build it was alright. My uncle being the uncaring human he is jumped in the air and said "yepee". After she left he told his wife they where getting a fence.
To build the house they had to blow up some rocks to build the basement, She called the cops three times claiming my uncle and his wife where blasing without a permit. Which they had. But becasue of local laws the police had to drive down there to check it out. Anyway when ever they see her coming to the house to talk or something they shut off all the lights and pretend they're not home. Even when the women knows they're there. After a while she got the message. Try that. If it dosen't work call the cops. A lot.
 
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Old Oct 24, 2003 | 02:04 PM
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get rid of the please carpe, being nice is good and all but you cant let them confuse kindness for weakness...you gotta be extra firm with these types!
 
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Old Oct 24, 2003 | 05:25 PM
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She claims to be a Christian, eh? Oh, I can think of a NUMBER of things you could do that would get her to move out within 24 hours! Let me know if you'd like to hear my ideas.

I once had a couple of Jehovah Witnesses come up to me as I was working in my driveway. They said they wanted to talk, so I said OK. When they finally got done, I then shared MY beliefs. I now have a "No Soliciting" sign in my front yard: the Jehovah Witnesses put it there!!
 
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Old Oct 24, 2003 | 05:57 PM
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Originally posted by 1956MarkII
I once had a couple of Jehovah Witnesses come up to me as I was working in my driveway. They said they wanted to talk, so I said OK. When they finally got done, I then shared MY beliefs. I now have a "No Soliciting" sign in my front yard: the Jehovah Witnesses put it there!!
That was great!

Hey carpe_diem, I would swear I know that woman. Scary to think there are more like her, but this one did the exact identical things...thankfully she moved years ago and doesn't bother my mom anymore (this was down South, I think Psycho Witch moved to Michigan or somewhere North after being ostracized.) We did consider a restraining order at one time, doesn't sound like a bad idea. And keep records of when and what she does. And DON'T bring yourself down to her level by engaging in any antagonistic behavior with her. You are the good guy, make sure the cops know that.
 
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Old Oct 24, 2003 | 06:13 PM
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I would send her a registered letter, one she has to sign for. Explain that you dont want her to bother you anymore, And if she persists then you will be forced to get a restraining order.

You will be able to use the letter as proof to the person issuing the restraining order that you tried to tell her politely.

I would not trespass onto her property to deliver a note telling her not to trespass onto yours.
 
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Old Oct 24, 2003 | 06:29 PM
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i have a neighbor just like that, she doesn't work, doesn't have a car, and asks for everything. my brother watched her walk on to our property and unscrew our sprinkler from the end of our hose and carry it back into her house. me and my mom went over to confront her and the neighbor cussed out my mom. my mom didn't feel like putting up with it so she said "sorry, my son must have been mistaken" and after that, the neighbor became all polite, "i'm sorry i used that kind of language..."

another time i watched her walk to the end of my driveway pick up my phone book and take it into her house. she also occasionally walks over and picks flowers out of my other neighbors garden.

i hate crazy neighbors
 
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Old Oct 24, 2003 | 06:32 PM
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This has opened my eyes up. I've never really had bad neighbors, except for a a guy my age one time(rental house next door, that an 80 year old woman bought after he moved out). He didn't have any tools, lawn mower, ect. Only would talk to me when he wanted something from me. I was polite to him even though I knew I was being used. The house on the other side, the guy has not mowed the back yard in three years. Right in the middle of town three blocks from the hospital. I have mowed his front yard for three years now, and have no problems doing it, and have never received a "thank you" from him. I don't expect one.

The crazy neighbor you have, I would follow what others have suggested. I would also put up a fake camara that looks towards her place. Let her see you putting it up and give her the impression that it will record anyone that steps foot on your land. Maybe you have to give the appearance of total coverage of your property, but will make her think twice about comming over to swipe your stuff.
 
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