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Old Dec 3, 2020 | 10:15 AM
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Balance Beads vs Weights

I am getting ready to pick up my new wheels and tires, they are 37/13.5R17. I have seen some tire shops say go with balance beads with large tires while others say use weights. My question is do they wear down the TPMS sensors or have any other issues? There is another thread on here but it is from 2018 so not sure if things have changed over the past few years. Thanks for the help!!
 
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Old Dec 3, 2020 | 10:20 AM
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A 37 can be balanced just fine with weights. Balance beads remind me of driving bias pay tires as they don't balance well at low speed.
 
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Old Dec 3, 2020 | 10:40 AM
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Balance beads can work, but I don't like them. I had them on my truck with 35's and what can happen is they can get stuck in the valve stem if the installer doesn't use the correct ones. I had that happen. Checked tire pressure and one of the beads got jammed up in the stem keeping it open so it slowly leaked. I managed to get it to stop, took it back and said rip that s*** out and do it with weights. I explained to them the valve stem issue, they looked it up and confirmed I was right. Dismounted, cleaned, remounted and balanced them on their dime, which was nice.

Agree with hog above, at low speed they're atrocious.

Do it with weights unless absolutely necessary. Now, with that all said, maybe things today are different. This was 5 years ago so the tech may have advanced to the point where they are a viable option. Others with more current knowledge I'm sure will be along.
 
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Old Dec 3, 2020 | 10:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Lmhayes88
I am getting ready to pick up my new wheels and tires, they are 37/13.5R17. I have seen some tire shops say go with balance beads with large tires while others say use weights. My question is do they wear down the TPMS sensors or have any other issues? There is another thread on here but it is from 2018 so not sure if things have changed over the past few years. Thanks for the help!!
My brother is an engineer who designed dynamic balancers which were successfully applied to many spinning things; turboprop aircraft propeller hubs, F1 racing car wheel hubs, washing machine tubs, etc., etc. He knows the principles and technology better than most. When I recently came across balance beads I asked him if I should get them instead of traditional weights. I was thinking he would enthusiastically recommend them.

The short answer: no. Stick to the weights.
 
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Old Dec 3, 2020 | 10:52 AM
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Originally Posted by tremore
My brother is an engineer who designed dynamic balancers which were successfully applied to many spinning things; turboprop aircraft propeller hubs, F1 racing car wheel hubs, washing machine tubs, etc., etc. He knows the principles and technology better than most. When I recently came across balance beads I asked him if I should get them instead of traditional weights. I was thinking he would enthusiastically recommend them.

The short answer: no. Stick to the weights.
That's quite interesting.

Coming from a Jeep background I know a lot of shops aren't set up or lack the equipment to balance 37 - 40" tires so beads were used.
I've run 35" tires without issue using weights.
 
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Old Dec 3, 2020 | 11:10 AM
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Originally Posted by tremore
My brother is an engineer who designed dynamic balancers which were successfully applied to many spinning things; turboprop aircraft propeller hubs, F1 racing car wheel hubs, washing machine tubs, etc., etc. He knows the principles and technology better than most. When I recently came across balance beads I asked him if I should get them instead of traditional weights. I was thinking he would enthusiastically recommend them.

The short answer: no. Stick to the weights.
I think this answer sums it up nicely!! It is hard for me to imagine them not bead blasting the TPMS sensors or like another poster said at low speeds they are useless. Thanks everyone for the responses, I will stick with weights!!!
 
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Old Dec 3, 2020 | 11:54 AM
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Centramatics.
 
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Old Dec 3, 2020 | 03:58 PM
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I like the centramatic wheel balancer

instead of putting beads in your wheel or weights on your rim....you install a disc over the hub, then the wheel on top. the disc has a radius tube which has beads in it. you can moved this from truck to truck as long as its the same bolt pattern.

 
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Old Dec 3, 2020 | 06:10 PM
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I've used Centramatics and Dyna Beads. Both work very well. The Dyna Beads solved a slight vibration at highway speed that traditional balancing with weights couldn't fix.





 
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Old Dec 4, 2020 | 03:01 AM
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I'm running Balance Masters discs on my 2020 F-450. Work real well. No vibrations. The only reason I picked them over the Centrmatics is because they are completely silent.
 
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They make special valve stems for use with beads. They have a screen that keeps the beads from plugging the stem up.
 
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Old Dec 4, 2020 | 09:07 AM
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Originally Posted by fordman19762003
They make special valve stems for use with beads. They have a screen that keeps the beads from plugging the stem up.
I never had a problem with the normal valve stems. I also installed my beads when I had new tires mounted, so the pack was dumped right in the tire and not fed through the valve stem after the fact. Not sure if that is the issue or not...
 
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Old Dec 4, 2020 | 09:41 AM
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Another vote for Centramatics.

https://www.centramatic.com/
 
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Centramatics - I wish their website was with a drop down vehicle pick

2020 F-450 It looks like these are the sizes.
#400-422 front balancers for Ford F450-550 2005 and newer, 10 bolt holes, 8.75 in bolt circle, 19.5 in tires.
#400-417 10 bolt 19.5" Rear Dual Axle, 10 bolt, 7.25 Bolt circle, 19.5 in tires.

https://store.mrtruck.com/Centramati...F450-p/226.htm
https://store.mrtruck.com/Centramati...Axle-p/233.htm


 
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Old Dec 4, 2020 | 07:35 PM
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Originally Posted by porthole
Centramatics - I wish their website was with a drop down vehicle pick

2020 F-450 It looks like these are the sizes.
#400-422 front balancers for Ford F450-550 2005 and newer, 10 bolt holes, 8.75 in bolt circle, 19.5 in tires.
#400-417 10 bolt 19.5" Rear Dual Axle, 10 bolt, 7.25 Bolt circle, 19.5 in tires.

https://store.mrtruck.com/Centramati...F450-p/226.htm
https://store.mrtruck.com/Centramati...Axle-p/233.htm
Whoa. Rear should be 400-423 for the 2005 and newer F450. The -417 has the wrong bolt circle. Recommend a triple check...
 
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