87, 89, or 93 oct.
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Monsta The main East West for Colonial runs from Centeral Texas to Atlanta. They have a tank farm in Helena Al where the diferent oil companys can pull gas out. Had a hazardous materals course at the tank farm a few years ago.
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Monsta,
If they are all getting the gas from the same place, it really does raise the question: Why do two stations, across the street from each other, have different prices?
On average a station will increase fuel prices by $.02 different that what it was purchased at. This is to offset the cost of doing business. You have to pay the credit card companies for each and every transaction and stuff like that. Most convienience stores make their profits off their convience items not their fuel. Smaller stations with little or no convience items have to make the profit off their fuel sales or other stuff like garage work. For this reason it is very uncommon these days to see a station with fuel service only.
If they are all getting the gas from the same place, it really does raise the question: Why do two stations, across the street from each other, have different prices?
On average a station will increase fuel prices by $.02 different that what it was purchased at. This is to offset the cost of doing business. You have to pay the credit card companies for each and every transaction and stuff like that. Most convienience stores make their profits off their convience items not their fuel. Smaller stations with little or no convience items have to make the profit off their fuel sales or other stuff like garage work. For this reason it is very uncommon these days to see a station with fuel service only.
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Thanks Jlower,
I figured out the economics of it all. ('bout all I got out of that MBA
)
I was just surprised that there is actually a pipeline and that all gas is basically the same, save for the additives. Always thought that the bgiger companies refined their own fuel.
Cool. I like learning stuff like this. Thanks again!
I figured out the economics of it all. ('bout all I got out of that MBA
)I was just surprised that there is actually a pipeline and that all gas is basically the same, save for the additives. Always thought that the bgiger companies refined their own fuel.
Cool. I like learning stuff like this. Thanks again!
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From: Calgary Canada
Originally posted by Jlower
Monsta,
Here are some links to the companies that control their section of pipe. Also, The addatives are not put in at the refinery. They go in at the local distribution yards.
Colonial Pipeline / Colonial Map
Duke Power / Duke Power distibution Charts
Sheehan Pipeline Construction Company
I can put about 40 more companies down if you still don't believe it.
Monsta,
Here are some links to the companies that control their section of pipe. Also, The addatives are not put in at the refinery. They go in at the local distribution yards.
Colonial Pipeline / Colonial Map
Duke Power / Duke Power distibution Charts
Sheehan Pipeline Construction Company
I can put about 40 more companies down if you still don't believe it.
I think you may be confusing natural gas, ie methane, with liquid gasoline. The numbers are stated either in cubic feet, or in barrels of oil equivalent values. (BOE)
I agree that there are a couple of large pipelines that transport partially refined crude oil (base gasoline, diesel, etc) and refined products along the eastern seaboard, but the idea of these massive "mega gasoline pipelines" that connect every company and gas station is very misleading.
The Duke and other piplines transport Natural Gas (CH4) from the NW states and Canada to market in the central states.
Waxy
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Waxy,
The different pipelines pump many different refinements of petroleum. The system moves whatever level is required depending on the customer/consumer. The piplines move everything from kerosene to crude oil. You are right Individual stations are not connected. They must have their fuel trucked in or in a few case shipped in. As for the NE there are many input pipelines and refinery along the coast that contribute to the system. Check out the websites in this thread just make sure to read it in depth.
There are different piplines for Gas(CNG, propane, Methane), Petroleum (diesel, gasoline, kerosene) and then there are the crude oil and un-Cat Cracked hydrocarbon base chemicals.
Just ask a Tanker driver, They'll give you the same answer.
The different pipelines pump many different refinements of petroleum. The system moves whatever level is required depending on the customer/consumer. The piplines move everything from kerosene to crude oil. You are right Individual stations are not connected. They must have their fuel trucked in or in a few case shipped in. As for the NE there are many input pipelines and refinery along the coast that contribute to the system. Check out the websites in this thread just make sure to read it in depth.
There are different piplines for Gas(CNG, propane, Methane), Petroleum (diesel, gasoline, kerosene) and then there are the crude oil and un-Cat Cracked hydrocarbon base chemicals.
Just ask a Tanker driver, They'll give you the same answer.
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Originally posted by Jlower
. For this reason it is very uncommon these days to see a station with fuel service only.
. For this reason it is very uncommon these days to see a station with fuel service only.
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I've got an uncle or two who own gas stations, and they would agree on the notion that revenue is generated not primarily on the gas itself. Their markup per gallon is nominal. As a result, their "stores" are responsible for bringing in revenue, as well.
On the other hand, I am also acquainted with a gas station owner who has a different philosophy on things. His convenience store sells the common items that commuters purchase -- coffee, cigarettes, etc. at rock bottom prices. His coffee is also known as one of the best you can buy within miles. But his gas, on the other hand, is 5-10 cents higher than anyone around him. It's interesting to pass half a dozen gas stations on the way to his, and another half a dozen or more after his, that sell gass much cheaper than he does. The funny part is that he's always got the most traffic coming & going, even though he's got the highest priced gas! It works for him, I guess, but I still wouldn't fill up my 38 gallon tank from his station.
On the other hand, I am also acquainted with a gas station owner who has a different philosophy on things. His convenience store sells the common items that commuters purchase -- coffee, cigarettes, etc. at rock bottom prices. His coffee is also known as one of the best you can buy within miles. But his gas, on the other hand, is 5-10 cents higher than anyone around him. It's interesting to pass half a dozen gas stations on the way to his, and another half a dozen or more after his, that sell gass much cheaper than he does. The funny part is that he's always got the most traffic coming & going, even though he's got the highest priced gas! It works for him, I guess, but I still wouldn't fill up my 38 gallon tank from his station.
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Don't know why I kept putting 97. I meant 87 as the regular grade. Don't know many places where you can get 97 now a days anyway.
So yes, if you see 97 in my earlier post I meant 87 regular grade gas.
I really should learn to type.
Jim Henderson
So yes, if you see 97 in my earlier post I meant 87 regular grade gas.
I really should learn to type.
Jim Henderson