it in a factory form is considered a dog or junk by a some but people who know anything and don't think in terms of wheezers or chebbie know better

any body know how the stock 2 bbl wheezers or cheebies from the late 70's gas crisis/emmisions conversion pulled?? thats right now who has the crap? ok add a mild cam alloy intake and small 4 bbl to each...

i have said many times a stock 400 will do as good as about anything restricted/retarded and starved that much

if it was junk why did they keep it in HD trucks til 86?
while the LD had a wheezer huh to me that kinda makes sense

 

my 400 is only a stock 2-barrel with EGR unhooked, the friggin thing flies with a manual 4-speed. Reason being the drivetrain was all transplanted into an original 6-cylinder truck, so the gear ratio is lower.

put 3.90's or 4.11's in anything on the street with a large V-8, it will clean house

 

I haven't had any problems with my 400 yet.It needs to be rebuilt though new bearings and crank but it fires up everytime.At first I was skeptical about the 351m/400 cause I always heard bad things about them but the more I drive myne the more I like it.I got a eldebrock 600 with a performer 400 alum. intake,headers with 2 1/4 inch dual exhaust with turbo mufflers on it.Gots lots of torque.And when I do the rebuild I'm putting a cam in too.

And I do think it is true about alot of magazines leaning towards chevys and hating fords.I been a suscriber to 4wheel off road and fourwheeler for about 4yrs. now and I was quick to learn they didn't like fords.They always say chevy this,chevy that.But that's their little minds at work.It's the blind leading the blind.

Dan

 

for a bit of speculation...

id say the 4 wheeling ragazines are big fans for chevy and jeep because everything was created for them and has been for years. The way this works with aftermarket companies is of course supply and demand. These major, lemming-like magazines want to remain popular with the majority of readers. Years back before our beloved Cleveland, the SBC was in demand in racing crowds. It was plentiful and cheap. Since then, aftermarket companies have felt secure making parts for them because its a "sound investment" and therefore they maintain the engines popularity (chicken creates egg, hatches chicken). This is also true for jeep off road components(shackles, springs etc.)
Ive heard lately the tables have turned and the Ford 5.0 is now the cheaper and plentiful motor to build. Why is it in demand? Ford put it in many a vehicle, priced it right for its performance factor. The mustang has whomped the camaro out of production! It all comes back to money here.

The 400 was never allowed this pinnacle, the 351c only had it for 4 years.

These are the reasons why exists the "351m/400 power drive" where us M geeks try to persuade aftermarket companies that there is a market out there. Maybe someone should direct them to a few forums.

 

now wow 5.0 or even better a 5.0 HO
oops the aussie 250 6 beat it stock/stock in the same model year
BBB sure ya know all about is ut felt like bein sarcastic lol

all tho the are way plentiful
if i was to do cheap power ... 460 and like a early > mid 80's fox body "drop it in" put a 31 sline nodular 9 in the back (tranny???)
connect the strut towers and weld some big steel under it so it won't collapse
but thats just me

 

Well, yea im not into the 5.0 for the specific reason that EVERYONE has them

Im guessing Australia has less stringent emissions laws. Anyone know for sure??? That would probably explain the higher performing goodies that seem to exist only there.

Hmm a tranny to go with a 460...maybe a tko with a trick bellhousing to allow such a mating?

 

I had a 1979 Bronco that had a 400 and it had alot of torq it had 35inch tires it got around 10.0mpg it would also do 0-60 in about 8.5 seconds not bad for a 5,000lb bronco

 

bbb> the thing that gets me with ford is that in every other market exept us/canada you can get cosworth powered fords(valvetrai/heads) the saphire/2.0 cosworth RS escort is a all wheel drice rally car with 350 horse in the top power package

well now hat ford owns a peice of cosworth (can't recall if ford owns the race or design part) but i think it has to do with the whole coswrth vega crap even tho ford first teamed up with cosworth in 1952 > 1954

btw i think the aussie ford was more independent from the dearborn operating like ford's euro or volvo while fo.mo.co. still can crack down if need be and i am sure alot of money changs hands

the emissions is likely but the clevland wasn't ecactly a "sniffer" motor but aussie may of spent less time and resources trying to get the wheezer right for us canada markets but the 302c was produced much longer than the 351c was in the us and mostlikely they just worked out the emission and economy aspects of it

like the 400 ford was too busy getting ontario up to speed or something else back in 71 to give it the proper attention hat would of yeilded a hell-ified work horse for thier autos to this day
imagine a 400 with decked pistons maybe a ohc or dohc fuel injected cleaner more power and americian

its the same thing gmc did with the poniac motors in 73

well did ya caych any of that lol half asleep and tryping again

 

well I also had a ' 76 F150 with an FE 360 motor and that was a major POS compared to this 400.

400 is much better, direct comparison.

 

any 335 series engine is awsome! they are the underdog in the engine world

 

add a small 4bbl carb on a dual plane alloy and a dual pattern cam thats fovors the exaust abit (even a cheap "tow" cam like 260/272 not very much over stock) and (almost forgot) a decent timing set ( can put a hi-flow cat in too.. a few on ebay sellin cheap SS hi-flows on ebay)

and watch it come to life in a big way

also just check every thing over vac lines electricial if there is no damage...

 

nothing like a ford on the trail.i rebuilt my 351m into a 400.was very simple.did it in my garage,only had too send out block to have bored for my oversize pistons.and of course had my used 400 crank turned and polished,just for commen sense.used the crane cams comp cam and lifters and a dynagear true double rollertimeing set.stock heads.she screams.can move a house,and most chevy guys just scratch there heads.would take a 400 over any 351,302,289,what have you.she runs sweet p.s. wouldnt even consider a damn chevy motor.!

 

You didn't have to over bore it to turn it into a 400.

 

nope, only had too bore it cause i like having that little extra horsepower.and i know those chevys hate it when i pass them in the mud.

 

The 400 in my 82 F150 is a cool motor, powerful sounding, torque to spare, can start out in 3rd gear at stop signs if I want to. What a torque monster ! I've built a few 455 Buick and Pontiac engines, and I'd put this 400 up against any one of those with similar equipment. The canted valve 351M/400 is actually a VERY advanced engine, it makes the power of a 455 sized engine with only 400 cubes. The trick is the cylinder head design- canted valve heads for reduced shrouding, increased flow, and high swirl design combustion chamber and piston top. Swirl promotes efficiency and a more complete burn, which means more power per CID. What we have with a 400 Ford is basically a 396 Chevy big block CID size, with a 454 Chevy stroke of 4", but weighing about 200-250 pounds lighter !

The 4" x 4" bore/stroke engine size gives the best of both worlds on the street or in a truck, cubic inches and revs. Plug it into any Desktop Dyno or similar HP simulation, and you'll be amazed. And it don't have to be spun to 9000 rpm like a Chevy to make torque and pull the weight around. Cripes my 400 Ford starter makes as much torque as the average small block Chevy...

Our next project is putting a 400 Ford in a 68 Cougar with a 4-speed manual trans. Look out !