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Old Sep 12, 2020 | 09:36 PM
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Manual front hubs? Why?

Looks like my new F3 50 has manual locking front hubs, as well as the default auto position.

Why?

When would I ever lock the hubs manually rather than putting the whole truck into 4L or 4H mode from inside?

I’ve never had a 4 x 4 with manual hubs before. I always thought that you had manual locking hubs when there was no electronic locking. Simply doesn’t make sense to me.
 
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Old Sep 12, 2020 | 09:40 PM
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So incase the vacuum lines break you still have 4wd.
 
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Old Sep 12, 2020 | 09:56 PM
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I was actually disappointed when they announced they were doing away with the manual 4wd, and thus the full manual hubs.

I liked that you could put it in 2wd low, to help backing things up. Yes I know there is the 2lo mod, but that was just more simple
 
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Old Sep 12, 2020 | 09:57 PM
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It's a fail safe. Most failures that cause the 4wd to not engage regardless of the brand of truck are traced to the system disconnecting the wheels from the driveshaft. There is additional benefits from saving wear and tear on front axle parts by disconnecting right at the wheel as well. Just ask dodge owners about front axle u joints.
 
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Old Sep 12, 2020 | 10:03 PM
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Backup

Your truck is an electronic shift on the fly 4X4 when the hubs are in Auto.

The automatic locking of the hubs is actuated by Vacuum.
If for whatever reason the vacuum system fails or the vacuum lines get damaged, you can still lock in the hubs manually by turning them to lock.
This gives you a fail-safe for getting the front axle engaged into 4 wheel drive.

Just put the hubs in Auto for normal driving.
I manually engage mine from time to time just to make sure they do not get stuck from long periods of inactivity.
You should check to make sure yours are in Auto. Sometimes they are not at time of delivery.
 
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Old Sep 12, 2020 | 10:04 PM
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Originally Posted by orion250
So incase the vacuum lines break you still have 4wd.
This. It happens, often at the worst time.

Also you can lock them in once in a while without shifting the transfer case in to spin the front end for a few miles to make sure everything stays lubed. Especially if you haven't used 4wd in a while.
 
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Old Sep 12, 2020 | 11:36 PM
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There is also a horrendous delay with the damn SOF when you are in auto mode, if off road and need 4wd immediately it is good to keep them in "lock". Difference between getting stuck and not can be the 2-5 seconds it takes the dumb thing to lock into 4wd in auto mode.
 
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Old Sep 13, 2020 | 06:56 AM
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Many folks will lock them in at the start of winter and they stay locked until spring. I run Warn hubs on the 02 as I removed the lines and plugged that system long ago. When/if the hubs need to be replaced on the 19, I will probably go the same route as the 02. I don’t have that option on the 98.
 
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Old Sep 13, 2020 | 06:58 AM
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My 16 was slow to auto lock the hubs. My 2020 seems to instantly go into 4wd. Even so, I still lock the hubs manually when I know I’m really going to need 4wd.
 
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Old Sep 13, 2020 | 08:52 AM
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Imagine being in Canada, November, -15, and your automatic features don't work. Hop out, manually activate, and back in business.
 
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Old Sep 13, 2020 | 12:52 PM
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A full manual system is more reliable than an electric system will ever be. The 4wd system is the main reason I switched to a SD, if your don't have 4wd with a full manual system you have a hard part broken. I was disappointed that Ford dropped the manual transfer case in 2020.
 
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Old Sep 13, 2020 | 01:41 PM
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I'm glad that they are here, as a previous owner of Dodge's & Chevy's, It's nice to have a plan "B" to go to when plan "A" doesn't seem to work!
 
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Old Sep 13, 2020 | 02:57 PM
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Originally Posted by jwduke
I'm glad that they are here, as a previous owner of Dodge's & Chevy's, It's nice to have a plan "B" to go to when plan "A" doesn't seem to work!
Some Dodge and Chevy owners spend a fortune converting theirs to manual locking hubs. Glad that Ford has kept them.
When I was a kid... you knew things were getting real when dad asked you to hop out and lock in the hubs. Wouldn't trade it.
 
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Old Sep 13, 2020 | 04:58 PM
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Some Dodge and Chevy owners spend a fortune converting theirs to manual locking hubs. Glad that Ford has kept them.
When I was a kid... you knew things were getting real when dad asked you to hop out and lock in the hubs. Wouldn't trade it.
Yep, did that to a '05 Dodge with a Cummins, I agree with you about dad asking you to hop out and locker in!
 
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Old Sep 14, 2020 | 07:33 PM
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i had a chevy blazer that had locking hubs fail while i was trying to get out of a snow bank.....something with the vacuum valve...

anyway i sure wish i had manual locking hubs then...and glad the 2020 f250 has them now just in case
 
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