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Old Oct 20, 2003 | 03:09 PM
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Angry Automatic Transmission problems...

I have a 2001 Excursion PSD with the 4 speed automatic. My X only has 39,000 miles on it. What I tow with my X isn't even worth mentioning, (7X10 utility trailer, 17ft. fishing boat) when compared to what it is capable of.

I lost the transmission at about 35K miles and Ford put in a remanufactured one and extented the warranty 3/36K on the tranny. Now just 4k miles later the (OFF) light on my overdrive keeps blinking and today its back in the dealer for service. it started to shift hard between 1st and 2nd gear.

I love the powerstroke but this tranny is the "*****z".....

WHAT THE HECK IS GOING ON WITH THESE TRANSMISSION???

IS THERE ANYTHING I CAN DO IN ADDITION TO THE REGULAR MAINT. TO IMPROVE THE LIFE OF THE TRANNY???

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Old Oct 21, 2003 | 10:27 AM
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The 4R100 is not known for being weak, even if the engine is mildly modded. There might have been "stuff" in the cooler or lines from the first trans that didn't get flushed out and got into the rebuilt trans. Ford mechanics are not known for being the best Diesel techs.
 
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Old Oct 21, 2003 | 12:20 PM
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Re: Automatic Transmission problems...

Originally posted by Savaged1
I have a 2001 Excursion PSD with the 4 speed automatic. My X only has 39,000 miles on it. What I tow with my X isn't even worth mentioning, (7X10 utility trailer, 17ft. fishing boat) when compared to what it is capable of.

I lost the transmission at about 35K miles and Ford put in a remanufactured one and extented the warranty 3/36K on the tranny. Now just 4k miles later the (OFF) light on my overdrive keeps blinking and today its back in the dealer for service. it started to shift hard between 1st and 2nd gear.

I love the powerstroke but this tranny is the "*****z".....

WHAT THE HECK IS GOING ON WITH THESE TRANSMISSION???

IS THERE ANYTHING I CAN DO IN ADDITION TO THE REGULAR MAINT. TO IMPROVE THE LIFE OF THE TRANNY???

Thanks,
When replacing the tranny the first time did they put a in-line tranny fluid filter before the cooler?
 
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Old Oct 21, 2003 | 04:20 PM
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To add to your list of woes, I add this: I have an 01 F350 PSD with auto tranny that is trying to engage 2nd and 3rd gears at the same time. Ford wants $500 just to tear it apart to diagnose the problem. I really wish that someone could diagnose problems without wanting to rip your pocket book out of your back pocket. I understand that it takes time to tear a transmission out and open it up, but I also know that I can have another shop take it out and apart for half of what Ford wants. I just hope that they can get the tranny rebuilt and working correctly.

Mileage I have driven the vehicle 7,000, total miles 58,000.
 
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Old Oct 21, 2003 | 07:32 PM
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1966 I can't tell from your response which shop will do your trans, the dealer or the other shop. The 4R100 is similar to the E4OD and they are not the easiest to do, and there are a lot of upgrades, so whoever does do your trans make certain they have a EXCELLENT reputation on the E4OD and 4R100, not just pretty good rep but excellent rep. Also request a Trans Go master shift kit, steel OD planetary, the latest version of the 4R100 torque converter, and a 20,000+ gvw or Ford V10 trans cooler in place of the stock one as a minimum.
 
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Old Oct 21, 2003 | 09:07 PM
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I just got word from the dealer that they and Ford will split the cost of a remanufactured transmission costing approximately $3,000 installed also I will be installing an additional trans cooler at the time and getting a trans temp gauge to keep track of the tranny temps. The most out of my pocket will not be more than $1500 as that is the most I will pay and they know this going in so I expect a quality job when it is all said and done. Also it will have a 3 year 36000 mile warranty. Hats off to the dealer for getting Ford involved and also being willing to share in the cost of the auto tranny replacement.
 
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Old Oct 22, 2003 | 08:47 AM
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Hi Guys,

Well, I got my truck back from the dealer yesterday. It seems that the solenoid that actuates a fluid valve inside the tranny was stuck so they had to pull the tranny and replace the part. The repair was covered under the extended 3/36K warranty I got on the tranny when it was replaced. I really hope this is the end of my tranny problems.

What kinds of additional filter systems are available? Has anyone here installed them?

Thanks,
 
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Old Oct 22, 2003 | 08:47 AM
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Good for you!
 
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Old Oct 22, 2003 | 09:06 AM
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I have heard lots of good things about
http://www.brianstruckshop.com/
For tranny rebuilding (outside of the Ford warranty)
I think will be sending my tranny here if and when it goes and I have the time to be down.
 
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Old Oct 26, 2003 | 06:39 PM
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Unhappy transmission troubles

For twg1966:

How did you get Ford to split the cost of your refurb transmission? Was the old one under warranty? My F350 Diesel has 49,000 miles and I'm told I'll need a new transmission. Does anyone know why Ford transmissions have so many problems? Will they not stand behind their product?

Thanks for any insight you can give!
 
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Old Oct 26, 2003 | 08:08 PM
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Originally posted by HeatStroked
I have heard lots of good things about
http://www.brianstruckshop.com/
For tranny rebuilding (outside of the Ford warranty)
I think will be sending my tranny here if and when it goes and I have the time to be down.
Man I have to agree. I have had my f250 PSD with a E40D for just over a month and I have herd so many trans problems here I can't believe it. I'm like scared to death about adding any house power at all. I am putting in the banks Stinger plus today and I am freeking out. These trucks were made to haul heavy loads and pull big trailers what is up with this. I had a 1 ton duelie Chevy that we pulled our Dragster all over the USA and never had a single problem with the tranny. The 454 we had was just as powerful as any of the PSD trucks. I fact it make way over 450 hp and a boat load of torgue. Is GM that much better? Maybe I should have bought a Duramax
 
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Old Oct 27, 2003 | 10:43 AM
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Edley,

I only had my truck for approximately 7,000 miles and 5 1/2 months. I took it to Mr. Transmission for a diagnostic, then to the Ford dealership, then back to the Lincoln, Mercury dealer where I bought the truck.

In order, Mr. Transmission, said costs would be anywhere from $1,200 to $2,000, depending upon what else blew up inside of the tranny as they were going to rebuild mine basically from the ground up.

The Ford dealership, told me flat out after I had paid a $65.00 diagnostic fee, that they could work one of two ways, tear the existing transmission down for a $500 tear down fee, or put in a remanufactured transmission for $3,200. I told them to sit tight for a day so I could check with the dealership I bought the truck from.

I called the salesman I bought the truck from and told him what I was going through and he asked me if I would bring the truck by their service department so they could take a look at it. I took the truck over to their shop and it was the same thing. $500 for a teardown or $3,200 for a remanned. I told them I would like to speak with the owner of the facility. Well that didn't get to far because the owner informed the service manager to contact Ford and see if they could work with me on this. When Ford said yes, the owner authorized the service department to split the bill three ways. Long story short, I ended up paying $817.37 for a remanufactured transmission from Ford with a 3 year 36,000 mile warranty and I can say that I will be taking service of things I can't do to that dealer even if I am paying slightly higher than an independent can charge, because they went way out of the way to work with me on this as I had no warranty left and I let the wife talk me out of the extended warranty on the truck.

Sorry to be so wordy.

Ted
 
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Old Oct 27, 2003 | 10:45 AM
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Zilard, make sure you get the Banks Transcommand Module. I don't know if it's included in the stinger kit but it would be worth it.
 
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Old Oct 27, 2003 | 12:39 PM
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twg1966,

Welcome to the Ford Tranny Problem Club...

I, like you, had tranny problems early on (just after the warranty expired) and like you got the bad news about replacement costs but to Fords' credit they agreed to split the cost by having me purchase an extended warranty (cost me 500 bucks) but that was all! They rebuilt the tranny and extended the warranty another 3 yrs. 36K all for my 500 "contribution". The program has a name but I don't recall it...anyway I have to give Canby Ford in Oregon City a KUDOS for going above and beyond what I would have expected. Doing this may be in some small way an admission that tranny problems with the 4R100 are common and this is Ford's way of dealing with them, but it worked for me.

Only one problem though and it may just be my imagination so anyone with knowledege of this symptom please chime in...

Before I took my Ford in for the tranny rebuild it was common for me to switch out of OD before desending a grade while towing to take advantage of what little backpressure a diesel builds and need only minimal brakng with pedal. I realize that it's not much but I got used to seeing the RPM's rise and the feel of control while desending what little there was. Also I got in the habit of manually downshifting on really steep grades and slow speeds to take advantage of engine braking. Since the rebuild I can do neither...if I take it out of OD on a grade the R's drop to idle and I free wheel on down the hill. Same with manual downshifting to 1st or 2nd...r's drop to idle with NO engine braking at all. I took it back to the dealer who rebuilt it and since they could pull no codes and a test drive was good they refused to tear it down, instead telling me that it is finally working like it's supposed to and should never have worked liked I described. I think he's blowing smoke up my a$$ but Canby Ford won't budge. Told me to go buy an engine brake.

Any thought's or comments? I would really like to know if any other PSD's with the 4R100 trans is doing this...Thanx

Theo
 
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Old Oct 27, 2003 | 02:23 PM
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yes my 2000 f-350 has done the very same thing at times although i don't think the tranny has been worked on though,and I just got it. it has 47000k in it. what have you found out if anything?
 
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