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Old Aug 1, 2020 | 01:05 PM
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Tool info please

I am preparing to change the diff oil on my 2017 f350 dually. Dana M300.
Trying to find the socket for the bolts. They are 12 point. 13mm 12 point too lose. Not an E-torx.
Any idea what they are?

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Old Aug 1, 2020 | 01:33 PM
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They are 13mm 12 point bolts. I think it might be a issue with tolerance of you socket. You can try a 1/2 socket as it is slightly smaller than a 13.
 
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Old Aug 1, 2020 | 01:34 PM
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Do you only own one socket... If 13mm is too loose, try a 12mm or an 11mm or a 1/2 or 7/16 or 3/8... Has to be one of them unless your socket is bad.
 
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Old Aug 1, 2020 | 04:06 PM
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12 point bolt heads need special sockets, you might be able to get them at Harbor Freight. If you try and use a regular socket you will round them off and never get them out.
 
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Old Aug 1, 2020 | 04:13 PM
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Spline drive socket. They come in both male and female. You can thank Europe for that one from many years ago.
 
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Old Aug 1, 2020 | 04:44 PM
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Alright. Thanks everyone. I tried 2 sockets and a wrench, just a bit too loose, not willing to see if it would work or round off. I will look for the spline drive sockets, makes sense something is a bit different. I will let you know.
 
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Old Aug 1, 2020 | 09:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Rich53
12 point bolt heads need special sockets, you might be able to get them at Harbor Freight. If you try and use a regular socket you will round them off and never get them out.
Originally Posted by C12H24
Spline drive socket. They come in both male and female. You can thank Europe for that one from many years ago.
Thanks for sharing. Doesn't that suck and thank Dana for using them.

https://www.harborfreight.com/7-piec...set-96363.html
 
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Old Aug 1, 2020 | 10:19 PM
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I picked up a nice Husky set at Home D. Standard and metric, what they call universal. They fit all kinds of bolt heads. Hex, 12pt, spline etc. Got the cover loose except for the top and bottom bolt. Then I pulled the bottom bolt and it started draining.
After it drained and I wiped off the cover I noticed that it was stamped in the cover "Drain>". I have never dealt with a diff with a dedicated drain. I was looking forward to pulling the cover and seeing the beefiness within. I guess I am getting too old. I put the bolts back and filled it up. Done.
Thanks to everyone who replied, I learned a bit about the new fastener designs. Another reason to buy more tools. Sigh.
 
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