So, I've decided to do a reverse level to lower the truck down to help with my gooseneck horse trailer. (I'll have to also lift the horse trailer!). My 2012 250 had 6.5" clearance, and now my '18 has less than 3".

I don't have airbags, and would prefer not to add, so I'm leaning towards the 2" rear block, as I'll probably have a level truck once hooked up to the trailer, whereas the 1.5" block would leave my truck about level unloaded, but most likely nose up once trailered.

Just wanted to verify my thinking on this. Also, seems like the PMF with the 2.5degree is the way to go instead of 2016 blocks with 0degree

Also, the PMFs come with the optional airbag support instead of a tang. Can those be used with the bumpstops instead of tang if I order but decide to hold off on airbags for a year? or should it always have airbags attached?

 

when you hook up trailer loaded how mush does truck go down I would install blocks that made the truck level hooked up. I have air bags on mine
and went to a 1 in block to ride allmost level. I removed the org 3 in block for the truck to be level and than installed 1 in so that if you put anything
in the bed with no block you have nose up. I keep 2-3 lbs in bags most of the time when I haul my travel trailer i have 35 lbs in bags and everything
in level. so bottom line I put 80 lbs in bags hook up trailer let air out till level remove trailer and see how much air is in bags now all i do is air up too
that figure when going to haul that trailer and it level every time.

 

To install the Air Lift bags on my 2020 I had to cut the tangs off. This is with the new bags specifically for the 2020s. Otherwise, the bags were completely compressed with the truck unloaded. In the end I installed new blocks. To help correct the lean, I have a 2” block on the drivers side and a 1 1/2” on the passenger side.

 

I lowered mine in the rear using longer shackles. Dropped it 1.5". Almost level

 

If you used longer shackles would that not raise the rear and if you used shorter shackles to drop rear that may not let springs compress fully

 

I’ve seen these. Essentially, these shackles move the spring mounting point up towards the bed of the truck. So, a longer shackle raises the springs up bringing them closer to the bed, thus lowering the truck.

 

I went with the PMF 1.5" . I also got the air bags. Like you mentioned, with my 5th wheel on the truck and the 1.5" blocks the truck squats a little with no bags. I did it this way on purpose so I could bring the truck up just enough to level everything out (and no more). My fifth wheel was riding nose high before which is bad for the axles so I wanted to get the trailer level. Also rides really nice when loaded and a little better when not loaded.
If you go with the firestone bags you don need the re-enforced tang because they ride outside of the jounce stop which means you keep the factory stop in place and just add the bags.

My springs come in tomorrow so I can remove the snow plow package springs and go with a softer spring to drop the front about an inch. This will help with the ride and give the truck the rake back.

 

I should have looked a my truck your right I was thinking old school shackles down. Been a long time since messed with shackles to raise or lower vehicle.

 

exactly! Leaf springs attach at the top so the longer the shackle the lower it drops until the shackle hits the bed of course. I used the PMF kit.

 

good to know. Maybe I should go down to 1.5” and do bags. I tow a horse trailer and also an equipment trailer either filled with square bales (250) or 14 round bales.

then, a bumper pull camper. With the bumper pull, I use a WD hitch, so the internal jounce in the airbag is a requirement, as I would want the bags basically empty so the WD hitch can properly transfer weight (which gives it its sway control - Equal-I-zer)

 

I have a buddy that I camp with that has a f350 and a heavy travel trailer. He said its much better with the bags and his WD hitch. He set it up after watching this video. He sets his bags at 23 psi every time and it works perfect.

 

these are questions for PMF. call them...they are very knowledgeable about their products.

 

Get a set of bags and enjoy your rig!! Simple

 

too late! I did the 1.5” PMF blocks (no taper) with airbag supports and added AirLift bags with the ez mount wireless compressor.

I still have to block my horse trailer up about 2” so it’s level as I’ve dropped the gooseneck couple down 2” to get some clearance. Got 5.5” now, so the 2” lift at the axles should put me at 6” clearance.

 

My 2019 F-350 Snow/Plow/Camper package sits level with our 2019Raptor 425TS behind it.