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I am sure they will do great in the snow, they are the first tire i have ever owned that allowed me to climb an incline from the side without the front end slipping down. I always forget about chains, maybe chains would be a better idea than the st maxx...
The chain question depends on how far you think you'll have to drive. Chains make for a rough ride, and it can be hard on the truck if the owner doesn't pay attention and fit the chains on the wheels properly. You don't want to drive too fast with chains either.
The chain question depends on how far you think you'll have to drive. Chains make for a rough ride, and it can be hard on the truck if the owner doesn't pay attention and fit the chains on the wheels properly. You don't want to drive too fast with chains either.
Definitely does, I guess one needs to decide how much they really need to drive when it gets bad enough to need chains. I would and have typically only used chains up in the mountains getting to our cabin, any other time any of the tires i have had have been good enough to get me through.
They perform very well in snow and mud, even on my dually. The dually is eating them alive though. 23k, fronts probably won't make 30k. Alignment on and I rotate every 3k. Rears may go 40k. Even wear out back, just a lot of it. I drive much more spirited than most, the fronts get noisy if you push it hard into a corner, heavy truck and hard driving probably has a lot to do with the excessive wear on the fronts.
They perform very well in snow and mud, even on my dually. The dually is eating them alive though. 23k, fronts probably won't make 30k. Alignment on and I rotate every 3k. Rears may go 40k. Even wear out back, just a lot of it. I drive much more spirited than most, the fronts get noisy if you push it hard into a corner, heavy truck and hard driving probably has a lot to do with the excessive wear on the fronts.
Haha, i love the term "spirited" Sounds like you are getting decent wear for the weight of the truck and driving tho haha...
I got caught in a snowstorm at 10,000 foot two years ago and Good tire tread was just not enough. The Ranchers all had chained up their front tires and drove right up the road., I spun out, Had to unload horses and walk them up to the summit and the rancher brought his truck back and hooked on to my trailer. I drove up fine empty, But he needed the chains to get my trailer up the last 400-500 feet of climb.
It makes me think twice about 35" tires, No room to put chains on and not tear up fender liner/mud flaps
Painted Horse, good post. I’ve grown away from oversized tires that I used to like when I was younger because the little bit of extra ground clearance for the differential isn’t enough to make a difference for me. Especially now that the stock tires on these trucks are taller than the 33’s I used to run on my trucks and Bronco’s. By staying with stock size I can put chains on safely and I have a spare that’s the same size too. There are other reasons too, but these two are the biggest in my book. If I’m towing a trailer up and down grades in heavy snow, I can chain up all the way around so my rear end stays planted going downhill in addition to the benefits of having chains on the front.
Painted Horse, good post. I’ve grown away from oversized tires that I used to like when I was younger because the little bit of extra ground clearance for the differential isn’t enough to make a difference for me. Especially now that the stock tires on these trucks are taller than the 33’s I used to run on my trucks and Bronco’s. By staying with stock size I can put chains on safely and I have a spare that’s the same size too. There are other reasons too, but these two are the biggest in my book. If I’m towing a trailer up and down grades in heavy snow, I can chain up all the way around so my rear end stays planted going downhill in addition to the benefits of having chains on the front.
What drives me nuts is that you can't find a aftermarket steel 20 inch wheel for a spare tire. I know the 18 they provide is good and close to the 20, but I've always wanted to get a 20 inch spare.
I'm probably gonna need tires before winter, so I'm thinking those Cooper AT3 XLTs.
What drives me nuts is that you can't find a aftermarket steel 20 inch wheel for a spare tire. I know the 18 they provide is good and close to the 20, but I've always wanted to get a 20 inch spare.
I'm probably gonna need tires before winter, so I'm thinking those Cooper AT3 XLTs.
That is most likely what i will go with as well, i have about 8k more miles to get to 60k on my first set, and they would probably be fine if i was coming out of winter and going into summer and not the other way around haha. I am torn between those and the st maxx...
That is most likely what i will go with as well, i have about 8k more miles to get to 60k on my first set, and they would probably be fine if i was coming out of winter and going into summer and not the other way around haha. I am torn between those and the st maxx...
These are also well received tires as well. They are made here in Buffalo and they sell like hotcakes here as well.
Guess i didn't realize those were made here in the US. That is one reason i have been loyal to the cooper tires, that and they flat out work well for evertything i have thrown at them.
Guess i didn't realize those were made here in the US. That is one reason i have been loyal to the cooper tires, that and they flat out work well for evertything i have thrown at them.
Yep Falken took over the Dunlop tire plant here. I've always been a fan of Cooper tires.
Well thanks alot, this website is supposed to make my decisions easier, not harder lol
I used to plow with my 96 with Copper STs that I liked. If you're in the mud a lot and like loud tires, go for the ST Maxx. But the Falken's have the severe snow ratings like snow tires do. I'm not sure about the AT3 XLTs though. depends on what you are looking for and where you live. I know the guys here that I know rave about the AT3Ws in the snow. They say they are very quiet as well and long lasting. But I have to admit, I like the Coopers better.
I'm due for new tires in the next 10000 miles or so. The more research and reviews I read the more I'm inclined to go with the Nitto Ridge Grappler.
I downsized my tires to 275-70/R18 after I bought the truck used and got rid of the 20". Tires will be cheaper in the future and the ride is even better.
I'm somewhat debating whether I should stay with an LT tire or go with an all-season tire like Michelin. I rarely go off road and 99.9% of my driving is on asphalt.
I'm due for new tires in the next 10000 miles or so. The more research and reviews I read the more I'm inclined to go with the Nitto Ridge Grappler.
I downsized my tires to 275-70/R18 after I bought the truck used and got rid of the 20". Tires will be cheaper in the future and the ride is even better.
I'm somewhat debating whether I should stay with an LT tire or go with an all-season tire like Michelin. I rarely go off road and 99.9% of my driving is on asphalt.
Definitely smart thinking downsizing as these 20s are expensive.
Nitto makes good tires. I've looked at them before also.
I was surprised at how decent the performance was of the OEM Michelin LTX AT2s. Problem was I had to replace them at 38k miles as they still had some tread left but winter was coming up. I rotated them so wear was even.
I bought Michelin Defender LTX MSs to replace them. They have about 25k miles on them. Getting them rotated today. They have tread left, more than the AT2s when I pulled them but we Will see what they look like in the fall. They were good in the snow also as they have the snow rating I believe.
But I don't know how guys are getting 50 to 60k miles out of them. I run my tires at 65psi.
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