My question is who’s right? It doesn’t seem logical that everyone is right about the same thing. How can the Jews, Hindus, Catholics, Lutherans, Islams, Buddhists and every other religion be right? If they all believe in a God, and all believe in the way to get there. Then they are either all right, all wrong, or only one of them is right. What would happen if everyone found out that the only way to salvation was to believe and worship in a specific way? Would all of the religions reform themselves and be just one? I know that there are very different views on gods and how to obtain salvation and such, but realistically, it is truly conceivable that everyone that practices religion is right? Is everyone going to the same place? Or is there one group that is going to make it and everyone else is sheet out of luck? I think that anyone that drives a Ford is gonna make it and all the Chitrolet drivers are….done done done!

 

as humans we are all different, ie look different diff tastes diff ideas diff fears...how can we all fit under one idea of god and faith and religion...doesnt mean everyone is right, but i refuse to judge anyone and condemn them to hell

 

don't they all have the same basic ideology?

Treat others as you would treat yourself?

Be good and be saved?

Sounds the same to me.



edit: keep in mind this is a VERY condensed overview.

 

I am a Christian. But Christians and Jews believe in the SAME God. If I am correct the first 5 books of the Bible are the Torah (if I am incorrect will a Jewish person please correct me).

In any which way, humans were put here for God's purpose.

 

I see the glass as half full....you see it as half empty...who's right? Sometimes there is more than one right answer.

 

If a religion ever involved a man (except Jesus in his short stint as man) that is being worshipped then it is a cult and in my honest opinion this includes Mary worship. No place in my Bible does it give any inclination to pray to or worship Mary or any of the other dead saints.

 

The line between a belief system and superstition is usually drawn by the believer. Those who adhere to a formalized belief system based on fundamentalist mythology handed down and practiced over generations tend to exclude the possibility that any other form of worship may be 'right'. Since primary social interaction of believers is normally confined to others of the same belief system, the mythology is hardened into a sense of reality within that peer group. The carrot and stick approach to many forms of worship act as a control device within those peer groups, in most cases discouraging recognition or acceptance of other opinions and further enforcing the acceptance by succeeding generations. Closed minds about many things in life, including other forms of worship, are the result.

 

Religion has persecuted, even unto death, the wisest and the best. Religion has stayed and stopped the onward movement of the human race. Religion poisoned the fountains of learning and misdirected the energies of man.

Religion is the enemy of freedom, the support of slavery. Religion sowed the seeds of hatred in families and nations, fed the flames of war, and impoverished the world. Religion is the breastwork of kings and tyrants -- the enslaver of women and children. Religion has corrupted parliaments and courts. Religion has made colleges and universities the teachers of error and the haters of science. Religion has filled Christendom with hateful, cruel, ignorant and warring sects. Religion taught men to kill their fellows for religion's sake. Religion founded the Inquisition, invented the instruments of torture, built the dungeons in which the good and loving languished, forged the chains that rusted in their flesh, erected the scaffolds whereon they died. Religion piled fagots about the feet of the just. Religion book drove reason from the minds of millions and filled the asylums with the insane.

Religion has caused fathers and mothers to shed the blood of their babes. Religion was the auction block on which the slave-mother stood when she was sold from her child. Religion filled the sails of the slave-trader and made merchandise of human flesh. Religion lighted the fires that burned "witches" and "wizards." Religion filled the darkness with ghouls and ghosts, and the bodies of men and women with devils. Religion polluted the souls of men with the infamous dogma of eternal pain. Religion made credulity the greatest of virtues, and investigation the greatest of crimes. Religion filled nations with hermits, monks and nuns -- with the pious and the useless. Religion placed the ignorant and unclean saint above the philosopher and philanthropist. Religion taught man to despise the joys of this life, that he might be happy in another -- to waste this world for the sake of the next.

I attack religion because it is the enemy of human liberty -- the greatest obstruction across the highway of human progress.

When you see all that religion has done and has yet to do, how can you defend it?

 

An old boss once said "Here's my best advice. Be where you're at." At the time, I thought he had been smoking rope, but I've come to believe wholeheartedly in this simple philosophy.

I don't worry about it. If there is a just God, why would it require me to perform rituals throughout this life to obtain some reward in another one? If I'm basically a good person, respectful of the rights and property of others, kind and generous, what kind of God is going to punish me for not getting the rituals right?

I'll worry about the next life if there is one. I'm going to concentrate on living the one I'm in.

 

Those who have tortured, killed without reason, sold their fellow man into slavery were not Christians or of any other religion other than of the Devil. They were just hidding in Christianity or other religions. I am a Christian and I still own a gun, still vote, and voice my opinions (sometimes very loudly and you know when I don't like something), but still stay quiet when my input is not needed. My liberties are not at stake because I am a Christian nor is anyone elses liberty at stake because millions are Christians. The Jewish people are the most persecuted people in the world, you don't see them complaining about their enslavement thousands of years ago. You don't see American Jews complaining that they should get something because the Allies didn't come quicker in WWII.

I enjoy this life, but there is hardship in this life and I believe in the fact that there is something better when I come to be with the Lord. I will enjoy what I have here, but live my life as Christ would have me to live it.

I sincerely hope that you can change your pessemistic view somewhat.

I don't need anyone to point out that so many people died because of religion and that wars were started over them, but how about the fact that the majority of religous people do not want war, but do not have the power to stop it.

That is your opinion and I sincerely hope for your sake at the sake of the human race it changes, but I will not try and change you. I will let God do that in the way He chooses.

 

cheese4420

Board subscribers here are predominately white, fundamentalist christian males, many 'born again' or 'fallen', and judging by other threads on religion, that generally leads to who can offer the most pious testimony in support of his particular belief system. Not that I consider that wrong, but it usually means someone immersed in a belief system never has the time or inclination to investigate or study other belief systems, being convinced their form of worship is the only 'right' one. I don't think you're going to get the discussion on your subject that you're seeking due to a lack of exposire to other belief systems.

 

460lover,
I thank you for your concern. However it is misplaced. I am not a pessimistic nor a person in need of "change". I am quite happy in my lifestyle. My views on religion are based on the reality of life all around us. If what you say is true ("They were just hidding in Christianity or other religions.") then how can you be confident that the religion that you put your faith in, are taught from, and use as guidance to live your life, has not been corruptted by these "Devil people" masquerating as Christians. These "devil people" have been inter-twined with religion since religion began. Just study your history to see the hypocrisy and the corruption that has come to represent religion today. You honestly think the Bible made it through the middle ages unscathed? If that is the case you should go study history a little bit more.

 

 

To me its a coke pepsi thing. You pick yours Ill pick mine. Is one better than the other,no. Just has to taste right to the person swallowing it.
Just my two cents. Eckart

 

and you can show documented proof that the Bible, it's contents and it's meaning have been altered? true translations have made it easier to understand, but at the same time the contents, its meaning, and the spirit that enables you to understand (the Holy Spirit) God's word have not been altered.

we have been over this many times and nobody is going to agree....there are many on here that belive "any kind of religion is bad" even terroristic sometimes in its nature. there are many on this site that are sold out followers of Christ, seeking each day to draw nearer to Him, desiring to learn more of His character and grow in that relationship with Him.

I for one think organized religion isn't the greatest thing. and the reason for that is that its not about religion and "godly things" its about a relationship.

my only thought that I would like to offer is this:

many ask how can a just and loving God let some go to Heaven and let somer perish in Hell.

Let me share my point of view in a very brief story -
A mother and her two childern were hiking along a rocky pass. All of a sudden the mother yelled, "Quick, run. " One of the children ran to saftey with the mother, the other stopped to ask "why". The mother and child that ran with her reached saftey. The one who failed to move and first questioned was crushed and killed by falling rock. Did the mother love one child more than the other? I don't think so. Did she warn each of them equally - yes. Each had the choice to chose, each faced the result of their decision.

just my .02