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Someone who needs a heavy duty truck but doesn’t care if it’s 3/4 or 1 ton can shop for both and find the best price with the options they want. For someone looking for a 1 ton that needs the extra capacity, all those used 3/4 get passed up.
I think it was 1200-1500 extra when ordering to go 350. For me that was cheap to get extra payload if I were to get a fifth wheel, and keep my truck relevant for any ccsb used buyers down the road.
[...] So the question therefore is.....does the F350 SRW make any REAL sense to the masses.....or does it make more sense to make a F250 and then duallies?
Typically, the F-350 SRW makes more sense than the F-250; the buying public just doesn't know it. People often opt for the 3/4 ton out of outdated conventional wisdom. While there are some very good reasons to go 3/4 ton over the 1 ton, I rarely see/hear/read anything resembling wise choices ... particularly when the diesel is added. Around here, the most common configuration I see is a 3/4 ton diesel. I would expect that at least half of the rigs I see plodding down the highway towing big 5ers are way over their GVWRs.
I keep my trucks for a long time. I don't need 3,600 lbs of payload today, but I may tomorrow ... and I'm quite glad I have it.
F250s don't make any sense to me. It's the same truck but with less payload.
Myself? I don't see any point to a SRW at all. It almost cuts the payload of a 1-ton in half.
The dually fenders are narrower than the side mirrors and in 20 years of driving regular cab and crew cab duallies all over, the only place they don't fit is 1) the bank drive through, and 2) automatic car washes. Which I never go to anyway.
As others said, it was payload. Without an F-350, there's no way I could tow my trailer, have diesel power (which reduces payload significantly), and carry my family of 4 (7 if you count the dogs)...and if you option it right and desticker it to 11,400 GVWR, you can save on registration in Kalifornia (but still pay plenty compared to other states) Plenty of discussion on that in other threads...
I got the F350 SRW because I needed the truck rated for as much payload as possible with out going DRW and an F250 automatically comes downgraded to the 9900lb package. That’s fine if you don’t plan on using the truck for any heavy work because then you don’t need to have an annual safety sticker. That’s maybe 17-1800lbs of capacity including passengers which is barely more than my last Lariat F150. My F350 payload is 3333lbs and came with the 11,500lb package. I’d much rather pay for a yearly safety and load this truck to its capacity then risk getting pulled over by the Ministry of transportation (which we see every day out on the roads) and get massive fines for being overloaded even though the truck can technically handle the weight. It all comes down to what it’s rated for on paper.
I read that Ontario changed the law last year and a yearly safety is no longer needed for privately owned F350 single wheels. I don't remember exactly what GVWR is now exempt, but if your truck is not a company truck you may no longer need a safety. I am hoping that Manitoba follows. Here it's not just a yearly safety but our public insurance treats over 9900 lb gvwr differently and it becomes a royal pain.
I still think that Ford has misprinted that truck configuration’s label at the factory, but, even allowing for a couple of hundred pounds of options, it’s still an excellent spec!
I would have loved to have gone with the F-350, but that would mean required safety inspections and D plates here in IL.
Many people cheat and go with B Truck plates (8000 lbs or under) with the F-250 and F-350, but I didn't want to get caught up with the State Police. ***side story, I got pulled over travelling through Indiana. The state trooper followed me for about 5 miles before pulling me over. He looked around inside and gave me a warning for having a license plate frame that blocked the state. If you look at the plate, the top half of the letters are cut off, but you can tell it is from neighboring state ILLINOIS.
Anyway, when I bought the truck, the dealer actually made me sign a liability waiver to get the B plates. The law is (deliberately?) written nebulous; it's hard to tell if the weights are GVWR or actual weight from the language used in the statute.
IL introduced C Truck plates for trucks between 8k and 10k (3/4 ton territory), so that's what I went with. Otherwise I would have liked to have the higher capacity F-350 as my payload is 2928 at the moment.
It probably depends on what you will be hauling and your state/province rules weather or not the 350 or 250 make more sense.
If you are in a area that has high licensing/ registration fees and possible commercial classification but are not worried about getting pinched on being overloaded the 250 or paper de rated F-350 makes more sense . If you have a area that doesn’t penalize or incentivizes for going heavier and need the extra payload the full rated F-350 makes sense. I am around max capacity on the F-250 with current intended load but live in a state with no penalty for going to F-350. It makes sense to get the 350 to allow for future load upgrades. Duly is not for me since my vehicle gets used off-road and only tows 50% of the time. I don’t want to take the empty ride hit especially on the trails where the duals won’t fit the tracks. The SRW fits on the trails and can haul what I need to do a better choice for me. There is a area dealer that stocks mostly F350s in SRW over F-250 since they “don’t see the point of a F-250” in this area. That is why Ford makes the different options since what works in certain areas may not work in other areas.
For me... This is one of those great threads where there is no answer.
The real answer for me is look at all the options we have to choose from. Whatever your needs you have a combination of options that fit the bill.
From gas 250 to diesel 450/550s the range of capability is broad and well covered.
My personal truck is a 19 6.2/4.30 CCSB. GVWR is 10,000 and payload is 3130. Tow rating with the 4.30s is 15,000. More than enough for me. because I could easily have gone with a 150. But I do not like 1/2 ton trucks.
An argument can be made as to why a diesel 250... Because of the engine weight using up payload. But theres plenty out there because guys want them.
If I needed a diesel. I would likely go 350 SRW... Or even 7.3 gas/4.30s F-350 SRW...
BUT.... If I was regularly towing heavy I would want a dually... It does control the load better... But then it can be asked... Why a dually 350??? why not go 450 and get the even bigger axles...
By the time I got through with the what ifs Id be commuting to work in a Peterbilt....
Right now for me the most desirable truck out there is the 450. If you crawl around underneath youll say... wow this is starting to look like a real truck... grease fittings everywhere. HD Frame... that big axle...
I have 2 for work and they are great.
What I need is a gas 250.... but only because a 1/2 ton seems too carlike to me... Regardless the tow rating they place on the tag. And for plowing.... My best truck still is an 06 GMC with big block gas and an Allison trans. SRW with Duratracs on it and I put a 500 Lb cement casting in the bed... The duallys slip and slide because same weight on the axle but twice the contact patch. Plus you need to spend too much to get really good knobby tires in the 19.5 although now they are starting to be more available... On my 2010 450 I bought 4 tire chains for deep snow on my dirt back roads...
One thing I don't see mentioned is the safety of a dual tire in the event of a sudden flat. Having 2 tires makes getting a flat on one of them far less dramatic. And really under certain conditions you can continue to travel with one flat.
It doesnt make sense if your looking at towing the max or close that the truck is rated for. These trucks now days being capable of 30,000+ this is how it should be looked at IMHO 30k with 2 rear tires or 4. Just from a safety standpoint alone no brainer on duallys. If you sit a single rear and dual rear side by side lets say both are loaded with Identical trailers and loads and we will stay under 25k just say 22k and this is normal hauling and you pick the single your nuts it just doesn’t make sense. If your trailers pin weight is just that much and your worried about it from that perspective then your trailer is honestly probably to much for a single and dually next option is F450 to be on the safe side. Thats just my opinion and I dont factor in registration cost either when it comes to the doing safe or being cheap on a sticker.
I ended up with a 2020 F350 ccsb , as that’s what’s on the lot locally. I was looking for a F250 . I don’t need the extra capacity. But I’m not seeing any draw backs to having the F350. The annual registration is the same . My 2020 F350 rides about the same, maybe a little better than my 2015 F250 did. .