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So am rebuilding my front end in the next few days, resealing axles as I have a leak on the passenger side. I will be putting in a Yukon LSD while I am in there as I plan on someday making this Excursion a Overlander rig, and plan on using a plow potentially in the winter, and pull a snowmobile trailer in the snow. Anybody have any experience with a LSD in the front end? Considered a E-Locker but opted away from it due to cost, and I don’t believe I can find one for the Dana 50.
Nonetheless, anything else I should do while I have the axles out and torn down?
Thanks
Nary a sole huh, but tons of feedback on “ what size tires can I fit w/o rubbing”.....?
I have surmised that not enough people have ever had or driven an Ex with a Torque lock, or Some such LSD in the front to give feedback. Information on the World Wide Web varies with opinions, and as such decided to formulate my own.
Rebuilt my front end axle seals, and replaced my open diff with the aforementioned Yukon traction aid, I will guess I will have to find out for myself. Will be next winter until I see snow or am able to plow or pull sleds, but imagine I will be In 4x4 climbing the dirt road to the lake sooner than later, To Be determined.
while I am here. What the best oil to use........😂
I put the Yukon limited slip in my Excursion a couple off years ago, mainly because it was the only option. I prefer Truetracs for a limited slip, but one is not available for the 50, other than the modified 44 units. The Yukon works well, it is more effective than a trac-loc, and obviously way better than open, bu still relatively smooth with no chatter when in 4wd.
I run Amsoil in almost everything I own. I have no experience with lockers, except a GM gov-lock. From what I've read, the Tru-trac is best, but is unavailable for the 50. I would like LSD's in mine also, but haven't done research past the Tru-trac.
Seems to me I recall someone here posting that the Tru-Trac was available form one of the big 4wd online sellers. It was a unit for the D44 that was machined to fit the D50. Maybe someone else here remembers also and can post a link to the thread ? I have terrible luck with search results here.
I put the Yukon limited slip in my Excursion a couple off years ago, mainly because it was the only option. I prefer Truetracs for a limited slip, but one is not available for the 50, other than the modified 44 units. The Yukon works well, it is more effective than a trac-loc, and obviously way better than open, bu still relatively smooth with no chatter when in 4wd.
Agreed, it’s worth having an extra traction aid given what the future of the truck will be, the Ex is already a monster in the snow with open diff in the front, I imagine it will get me way more stuck now with the added traction aid..... I have always wanted to get a winch bumper up front so that will be a consideration going forward, I like the looks of the ARB for that.
Will be adding air bag bag to the rear, and though it would be nice to have in he front as well to control the added weight of a bumper and possible a plow in the future.
So am rebuilding my front end in the next few days, resealing axles as I have a leak on the passenger side. I will be putting in a Yukon LSD while I am in there as I plan on someday making this Excursion a Overlander rig, and plan on using a plow potentially in the winter, and pull a snowmobile trailer in the snow. Anybody have any experience with a LSD in the front end? Considered a E-Locker but opted away from it due to cost, and I don’t believe I can find one for the Dana 50.
Nonetheless, anything else I should do while I have the axles out and torn down?
Thanks
If you're bent on sticking with the 50, you could go with ARB's air locker, Auburn's ECTED, or maybe Powertrax's Lunchbox rebuild (auto locker). I'd check out your typical wear items (ball joints, etc.)
That said, you could go to the Dana 60 from a '02-'04 F250 or F350 (SRW) and open your options up considerably. I'm rebuilding one right now for my Ex. The stronger unit would probably benefit your plowing anyway, and would better handle the stresses of a locker, particularly while overlanding.
A clutch type limited slip acts like a welded diff or full spool in the snow/ice. There isn't enough traction at the wheels to overcome the clutches so they stay locked up. An automatic locker or geared helical limited slip is a better option. A "lunch box" locker is available for the 50. If you don't like it you can take it out...
Just be aware that a locked steering axle wants to crab and resists turning. This can cause unpredictable behavior in snow and ice. In my experience offroading I much preferred the predictable behavior of selectable lockers. Especially in the front. Since you are going to be carrying the weight of the plow I agree with the recommendation to build a 60. Plowing is once of the roughest things you can do to the front end of a vehicle.
Just be aware that a locked steering axle wants to crab and resists turning. This can cause unpredictable behavior in snow and ice. In my experience offroading I much preferred the predictable behavior of selectable lockers. Especially in the front. Since you are going to be carrying the weight of the plow I agree with the recommendation to build a 60. Plowing is once of the roughest things you can do to the front end of a vehicle.
Agreed 100%. After my own research I decided it was either a selectable or open in the front for me, and I didn't see the need in the expense of the selectable...my recommendation to you for plowing would be a selectable and a built d60.
Just be aware that a locked steering axle wants to crab and resists turning. This can cause unpredictable behavior in snow and ice. In my experience offroading I much preferred the predictable behavior of selectable lockers. Especially in the front.
If you were in a sticky situation (with a locker) and only wanted power to one front wheel, couldn't you leave one hub unlocked until you were back on solid ground?
If you were in a sticky situation (with a locker) and only wanted power to one front wheel, couldn't you leave one hub unlocked until you were back on solid ground?
You could but it will pull you to the left or right depending on which hub you have unlocked since only one front wheel is getting torque.