Hey folks, thought I'd reach out and see if anybody has the same problems I do with the passenger mirror on the Superduty's. The upper mirror, the larger one, is NOT convex at all, it appears to be a straight mirror. This drastically limits the field of view with it, and makes it quite difficult to maneuver or back things up with it. I realize the lower smaller mirror is convex; that mirror is supposed to be pointed down to give a wide-angle view of the tires and area for reversing, especially with trailers, and it works great for that. But to use it as a primary mirror doesn't make sense to me because it is too small, and if set that way then I still could not see the tires and what they're backing over, and also because the two mirrors pointing at the same thing is very distracting and becomes a safety risk if the need arises to look quickly and process all the information quickly and correctly.

It would be better, at least in my opinion, if that upper large passenger mirror were slightly convex, like almost all other vehicles. I wanted to wait awhile to see if I 'got used to it', and I have to a degree, but it just doesn't work well at all.

Thoughts?

Also, is there any convex option out there in the aftermarket world to replace this glass (while retaining functionality of the blind spot systems, etc)? Would appreciate if you know of anything, I haven't been able to find it, so...

Looking forward to hearing others opinions...

 

It’s taken me some time to get used to the ford mirrors as I was coming from a dodge. You have to play with the angle of the convex lower mirror a little to get it in the sweet spot. I try to line it up so I see the tire in the lower inner corner of the mirror. That way I can see the little Prius driving beside me that the upper mirror will miss. I sure wish the convex mirror was power adjustable like the dodge..... sorry, Ram.

 

I love the mirrors. Perfect. I want to see undistorted when backing up . The bottom mirror I use as a spotter to see if I'm going to hit anything.

 

With the convex lower mirrors all the way out, the outer 1” or so of the reflective surface only shows the mirror housing. That increases the blind spot......I don’t need to see the housing. That is my major complaint with mirrors on my Super Duty.

 

While I can understand your wants and reasoning here, I have never had an issue with the Ford mirrors. They are, in my opinion, the best mirrors out there. Between the upper and lower mirrors, I can see EVERYTHING from my door handles to the lane next to me. Back wheels, blind spots, where my rear bumper is, etc. They are fantastic once adjusted correctly - it just takes time to get them dialed in. Take the time, and you'll be surprised. My lowers are adjusted to be able to see the rear tires on the inside, and in doing so it also shows me blind spots fully. Then the upper mirror provides me an undistorted view of the lane next to me/behind me. Beautiful.

 

I've adjusted the upper mirrors out so I can't see the side of the truck and the lower mirrors out so I can just see the door handle and down so I can see the back tire. I don't feel I have any blind spots.

 

only complaint I have with the mirrors is when I drive another vehicle without them. So use to not looking over my shoulder for a lane change in the SD that I have to continue to remind myself driving my wife's rover. Every vehicle should have them.

 

Little thing I used to do on my 2015 Superduty was set button #2 on seat/controls preset on drivers door to lower mirror a little and leave everything else the same so I could make it a little easier to see more to the bottom of tires when backing along curbing. When I went from drive to reverse I would slightly hesitate @ neutral, hit #2 preset, then grab reverse. The seat and controls won't change on the presets in gear, neutral is treated like park it will change, once it initiates the change it doesn't matter if it goes into gear it will keep initiating changes. I'm pretty sure seats first, then petals, then mirrors. Being I just wanted the mirrors to lower nothing else was changed from preset #1. It worked very smoothly w/o any real hesitation from drive to reverse.

My new 2020 250 Lariot I haven't done that to the presets. I think these mirrors are even better than the 2015. I know they have heat on the spotters. I have driven friends non Ford trucks, the mirrors were way to small or convex ( distorted) I suppose you can get used to things, but I found them awful.

I put nice chrome "west coast" mirrors on a 1986 F-350 dually, utility body, all decked out, with a spotter on a nice chrome arm made for it under the lower mirror arms which looked great, that would look horrible on a late model 150 or 250, maybe better on 350 & up.

My mirrors have side spots, puddle lights, heated glass on upper and spotter mirrors, and a camera under the mirrors. They power retract (great for going down a tight road and a pickup is coming the other way), they force in and force forward to protect from breaking. These Ford engineers did a fantastic job. The mirrors being what they are I can park so close to a curb backing in (sometimes), you couldn't fit a credit card between the tire and curb. Backing a trailer you can send the mirror out when your angled, then bring it back in when getting straight, all the while the spotter lets you see the big picture so you don't get in to trouble, between the two it's perfect (until the Great Dane wants to see too). Just my opinion.

 

Thanks folks, I'll play with adjustments, as you've suggested in some cases, still I am not impressed. I think it's overthought a little. 2 mirrors, and there are still large blind spots, that strait mirror has a very narrow field of view, and no amount of adjusting I've done so far can overcome that physical limitation...

I'll play with some more, hopefully can get there!

Thx all

 

Never had a problem since the 2008 version, (basically the same mirrors) and traveled hundreds of thousand of miles across the country, pulling all types of trailers.

But, they were extended most of the time, so that might have something to do with it.

Don't remember any problems with them being pulled in. Maybe I just got used to them.

 

Not everyone should drive a truck. I have seen over the road semi drivers who were passable @ best going forward, awful backing. Seen lots of trailer dumps and lowbed tractor trailer guys, who are highly skilled, seems to be prevalent with construction guys. I guess we all do the best we can, some have it some don't. Some men belong in the kitchen, and other men are useless in the kitchen.

So done with this thread.

 

It may be a combination of your seat adjustments too...but I and most others have ZERO blindspots - if you walked from the driver side door around the back of the truck to the passenger door I would not lose sight of you at any point between side mirrors and rear view mirror. That's proper adjustment.

 

I hate convex mirrors! Even back in the 90’s when the F- series had convex mirrors in the passenger side I would have a glass shop break the convex out and replace it with straight glass. The TT mirrors have the best of both worlds with a straight glass and a convex below. I have zero blind spots with the current mirrors once adjusted correctly. I wouldn’t change a thing with them. My wife’s F150 even has the TT mirrors.

 

I have the exact same complaint with my 2024 F-250. I come from a 2011 F-150 and the passenger mirror in that truck has no blind spot. There is no adjustment you can make to overcome the physical limitations of the super duty passenger mirror. Is like looking through binoculars, you see a "zoomed" view and what appears on the mirror is very clear given you are zoomed in on it, the big problem is you don't see all the other stuff that's around resulting in a huge blind spot. This mirror is right out dangerous and if it were not for the blind spot monitoring indicator you could not switch lanes (to the right) safely. At first I thought it was just a matter of getting used to it but the more I drive the truck (800+ miles) the more I realize that you've got to use 3 mirrors, the rear view mirror the passenger side top and bottom mirrors to be able to effectively see a vehicle in the blind spot. Don't get me wrong, I absolutely love my new super duty but this is definitely a huge miss by Ford.

@AidenFC did you find an after market glass to correct this?

View from back up camera for context

Driver mirror. Expected view showing multiple wood piling

Passenger mirror. Note how zoomed in this view is only showing one wood piling

 

Mirrors are great.

Blind spot indicators on mirrors are not trustworthy especially with a trailer - yes i set up the trailer length on the screen.