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Old Apr 8, 2020 | 08:57 PM
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Got stranded....

Well... the kids and I got stranded on our first trip out of town. We ran to the neighboring town (boit 20 miles) to look at a 79 F100 (nice truck, ima buy it). We leave and get 1/2 mile down the road and I loose fuel pressure. I coast into the driveway of one my customers. Let it cool down, since it was 92 today, and she fires right up. I let her idle for 2-3 minutes then she looses fuel pressure again and dies. Dang.... I call another local customer who is a Harley mechanic by trade. He comes over and we look at several different items. Long story short... he thinks that the fuel is atomizing and not allowing the sump pump to pick it up. So, I'll call a tow truck tomorrow morning and have her brought home. Guess I need to re-think my fuel delivery system.
 
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Old Apr 8, 2020 | 08:59 PM
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Oh no! What's your pump setup? I just installed the Hyperfuel retrofit kit in my rig and haven't put any miles on it yet.
 
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Old Apr 8, 2020 | 10:35 PM
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Fuel atomizing in the tank doesn't make sense.

I'd replace a $5 fuel filter just for good measure.
 
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Old Apr 9, 2020 | 07:41 AM
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I replaced the mechanical pump with a Spectre electric pump a few weeks back. The factory hard fuel line comes up under the steering gear box and is roughly 5" away from the headers. I placed the electric fuel pump inside the engine compartment on the frame rail. The Harley guy says that the heat from the headers, then the electric pump then the high pressure pump is way too much. So, once I get her home ill move the electric pump back by the saddle tank and re-route the fuel line away from the header. Attempt #1 plan. I will definitely be replacing the filters as well.
 
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Old Apr 9, 2020 | 08:01 AM
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The electric pump is supposed to be as close to the supply tank as possible. Some even say 10" or so at the most. They are designed to push fuel to the motor and not pull it from the tank.

All of our trucks have the fuel line coming up the driver's side frame rail, usually tucking under the motor mount tower, then going to the mechanical pump of right up the side of the motor so I highly doubt that's your problem.

​​​​​My guess would be vapor lock. When it stalls and loses pressure, take your gas cap off and fire it up.
 
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Old Apr 9, 2020 | 08:10 AM
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We tried leaving the gas cap off... didnt work. I will be relocating the electric pump to the frame rail by the saddle tank. Then will replumb the fuel line away from the headers.
 
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Old Apr 9, 2020 | 09:39 AM
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Then I'd guess you either have a plugged fuel filter or that the sock on the end of your sending unit in the tank is getting plugged up with junk. If that's not the case and everything is clear, then your pump may be bad. It sure wouldn't be the first time a spectre pump took a dump. Especially if it was mounted wrong...then it will overheat and really be junk.

Unless you have a kink in your fuel line somewhere, I highly doubt the way it's routed would fully snuff off the fuel flow. Granted it it always good to keep it as far away from the exhaust as possible, but in this case I don't think that's why your truck isn't running.
 
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Old Apr 9, 2020 | 10:11 AM
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In my case I discovered that the fuel line behind the power steering box was crushed, likely by someone working on that steering sometime in the past. It was invisible until I removed the steering box. That combined with other factors such as excess heat, pump malfunction, etc. might yield the effects you've described. I'd recommend using pressure gauges before digging that deep.
 
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Old Apr 9, 2020 | 04:12 PM
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In my case I discovered that the fuel line behind the power steering box was crushed, likely by someone working on that steering sometime in the past. It was invisible until I removed the steering box. That combined with other factors such as excess heat, pump malfunction, etc. might yield the effects you've described. I'd recommend using pressure gauges before digging that deep.
Steering box is coming out this weekend for a rebuild and the pressure gauges should be here by Sunday.
 
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We leave and get 1/2 mile down the road and I loose fuel pressure.
How did you know that you lost fuel pressure?

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Old Apr 12, 2020 | 02:24 PM
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Is it vapor locking?
 
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Originally Posted by AnotherChef
I replaced the mechanical pump with a Spectre electric pump a few weeks back. The factory hard fuel line comes up under the steering gear box and is roughly 5" away from the headers. I placed the electric fuel pump inside the engine compartment on the frame rail. The Harley guy says that the heat from the headers, then the electric pump then the high pressure pump is way too much. So, once I get her home ill move the electric pump back by the saddle tank and re-route the fuel line away from the header. Attempt #1 plan. I will definitely be replacing the filters as well.
My mechanical pump died on me a couple of years ago so I bought a cheap electric pump and mounted it under the hood on the fender. It ran fine until I drove it on a hot day, then it would quit on me until it cooled down sufficiently. I assumed that the little cheap pump was getting too hot and would warp enough to cause the diaphragm inside to lose contact resulting in loss of pressure. I replaced it with a carter electric pump, mounted it on the frame rail and haven't had any problems since.
 
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Old Apr 16, 2020 | 07:19 AM
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How did you know that you lost fuel pressure?

Dennis
EFI Computer display
 
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Old Apr 16, 2020 | 07:21 AM
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The new tank is in.... Waiting on the other parts from LMC. I bought plenty of tubing for the new fuel line and EFI vent. Hopefully, I'll have it all replaced this weekend.
 
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Old Apr 16, 2020 | 04:39 PM
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Originally Posted by AnotherChef
EFI Computer display
What you saying Willis?
What do you have going on with your truck as you posted you replaced the motor fuel pump with an electric one and a few other things I think so where does this EFI display come in?
Where was it posted you have EFI?
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