250 payload vs 150
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From: Chaz
Agree on a 10,000 truck every pound counts and that 350 axle and extra leafs and over load is not needed weight. Would put my payload under 2,000. I am just fine with 2,100.
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I have a '19 F150 with 2035 payload.
I've had a little over 1K lbs in the bed and that was quite enough. I wouldn't pull a trailer with it as the balance is wrong and the P rated tires and no sway bar makes for a very poor tow vehicle.
I've never seen any point to a 3/4 ton truck.
A SRW 1-ton is a neutered enough 1-ton. My general purpose work trucks are all DRW with payloads well over 4Klbs.
I've had a little over 1K lbs in the bed and that was quite enough. I wouldn't pull a trailer with it as the balance is wrong and the P rated tires and no sway bar makes for a very poor tow vehicle.
I've never seen any point to a 3/4 ton truck.
A SRW 1-ton is a neutered enough 1-ton. My general purpose work trucks are all DRW with payloads well over 4Klbs.
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A word on the HDPP F150 - truck was designed for "bragging rights" by Ford in that segment. They are available in a XL and XLT trim with very limited equipment packages and options to keep the curb weight down. Not many HDPPs roll off the assembly line and expect to be a special order.
As stated above, mechanically speaking the lower stickered F250 is a more capable truck than the HDPP F150. It is a "paper limitation".
Was scrolling through hoping someone would mention the axles - a major difference.
Depending on use case for truck (and I don't know all the laws, tax code and regulations...) - potential higher taxes, registration, insurance, possible need for CDL, etc...
Outside of that there is no downside to having the higher capacity.
As stated above, mechanically speaking the lower stickered F250 is a more capable truck than the HDPP F150. It is a "paper limitation".
Was scrolling through hoping someone would mention the axles - a major difference.
Depending on use case for truck (and I don't know all the laws, tax code and regulations...) - potential higher taxes, registration, insurance, possible need for CDL, etc...
Outside of that there is no downside to having the higher capacity.
As far as bragging rights.... nah, completely baseless opinionated comment.
If a guy carries 2,500lbs of weight in boxes and tools in his truck but doesnt want the poor fuel mileage of a 6.2gasser SD, then the F150 HDPP fits the bill & at a lower price.
True, Not as many HDPP roll off the line. CAFE plays a roll in the number HDPP produced as the HDPP has 3.73 gears which lowers the overall MPG. 7,050GVWR & HDPP 7,800GVWR trucks are not CAFE exempt like our SD are.
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Lariat trim HDPP F150 is offered too. Yes, options are limited.
As far as bragging rights.... nah, completely baseless opinionated comment.
If a guy carries 2,500lbs of weight in boxes and tools in his truck but doesnt want the poor fuel mileage of a 6.2gasser SD, then the F150 HDPP fits the bill & at a lower price.
True, Not as many HDPP roll off the line. CAFE plays a roll in the number HDPP produced as the HDPP has 3.73 gears which lowers the overall MPG. 7,050GVWR & HDPP 7,800GVWR trucks are not CAFE exempt like our SD are.
As far as bragging rights.... nah, completely baseless opinionated comment.
If a guy carries 2,500lbs of weight in boxes and tools in his truck but doesnt want the poor fuel mileage of a 6.2gasser SD, then the F150 HDPP fits the bill & at a lower price.
True, Not as many HDPP roll off the line. CAFE plays a roll in the number HDPP produced as the HDPP has 3.73 gears which lowers the overall MPG. 7,050GVWR & HDPP 7,800GVWR trucks are not CAFE exempt like our SD are.
I understand your use-case and agree that there are situations where a HDPP f150 would be better suited than an F250. I stand by my comment as the big 3 are always pushing payload numbers (among other "bests") for each segment. The vast majority of F-150s are equipped to handle ~1400-1800lbs payload. The HDPP truck gives the marketing department something to put in their brochure and commercials as "best in class".
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On the job site the other day we were comparing my 250 diesel payload of 2236 lbs to a 150 with the heavy payload package that had 2516 lbs. Now I know my truck can out tow this truck pretty easily but can it seriously handle more payload? I have my opinion but just wondering what others think. Something to do while we’re stuck inside.
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Are you a 9900 or long bed.
Mine has every option besides bedliner and rear airbag seatbelts and it right at 2100. Even has the console safe, dual alternators, rapid heat, 5th wheel prep, ultimate package, etc. 2019 CCSB Platinum 6.7 4x4.
Getting below 2,000 would be kinda weird to me but I am sure it is just fine.
Mine has every option besides bedliner and rear airbag seatbelts and it right at 2100. Even has the console safe, dual alternators, rapid heat, 5th wheel prep, ultimate package, etc. 2019 CCSB Platinum 6.7 4x4.
Getting below 2,000 would be kinda weird to me but I am sure it is just fine.
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Are you a 9900 or long bed.
Mine has every option besides bedliner and rear airbag seatbelts and it right at 2100. Even has the console safe, dual alternators, rapid heat, 5th wheel prep, ultimate package, etc. 2019 CCSB Platinum 6.7 4x4.
Getting below 2,000 would be kinda weird to me but I am sure it is just fine.
Mine has every option besides bedliner and rear airbag seatbelts and it right at 2100. Even has the console safe, dual alternators, rapid heat, 5th wheel prep, ultimate package, etc. 2019 CCSB Platinum 6.7 4x4.
Getting below 2,000 would be kinda weird to me but I am sure it is just fine.
My Lariat Ultimate CCSB, without every option(no sun roof, no 5th wheel prep etc.) is at 2239.
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I’ve personally maxed out my F250 several times and have maxed out half-tons in years past. Between the brakes, heavy duty tires, and tighter suspension on HD pickups, a maxed-out F250 doesn’t feel the slightest bit taxed or unsafe. Think about that with the F150’s C load range tires.
The Super Duty is uncomfortable when empty and smooth when loaded. The F150 is smooth when empty and soft when loaded. That says a lot, too.
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