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Old Mar 8, 2020 | 04:13 PM
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Starting problem and sometimes running bad

Hello everyone. I am new to the group and this is my first diesel truck. I have a 2006 F250 Super Duty with the 6.0. The truck starts and runs great till it gets warmed up. After I have driven it a bit and it is warmed up at times it starts sputtering an I have white smoke from my tailpipe. I know its not coolant because I do not smell coolant. What I smell is more like a diesel smell. I have a few ideas as to the direction I am going but would like to hear other people's opinions that have probably had this problem or know someone who has. Any help would be great. And remember I am new to diesel trucks so please let me know different part names not just letters. I know The pats on a gas engine by letters but there are so many on this forum that I have read that I don't know. Thanks in advance for any help and advise you can give me.
 
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Old Mar 8, 2020 | 10:51 PM
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Pull your EGR valve and inspect. If it is gummy and wet there may be repairs needed. Owning this truck requires (IMO) using some type of monitoring device to check different data, such as oil temperatures, coolant temps, Fuel Injector Control Module (FICM) voltages, Injection Pressure Regulator (IPR) psi, etc. Get started reading the sticky thread on 6.0 maintenance. The brain trust here is awesome but they require hard numbers/data in order to help diagnose your problem, more than just smelling your exhaust. The dash gauges are not sufficient to find solutions either. The more you learn the more you will either really love or hate this truck. I like mine : ) 200,000 miles and running better than ever.
 
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Old Mar 8, 2020 | 11:21 PM
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Originally Posted by WolfCreek540
Pull your EGR valve and inspect. If it is gummy and wet there may be repairs needed. Owning this truck requires (IMO) using some type of monitoring device to check different data, such as oil temperatures, coolant temps, Fuel Injector Control Module (FICM) voltages, Injection Pressure Regulator (IPR) psi, etc. Get started reading the sticky thread on 6.0 maintenance. The brain trust here is awesome but they require hard numbers/data in order to help diagnose your problem, more than just smelling your exhaust. The dash gauges are not sufficient to find solutions either. The more you learn the more you will either really love or hate this truck. I like mine : ) 200,000 miles and running better than ever.
Thank you for the reply. I am going to order one tomorrow. I don't mind doing the maintenance on the truck, just was unsure where to start. Any suggestions as to the type of monitor I should buy?
 
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Old Mar 8, 2020 | 11:40 PM
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The best bang for the buck would be an ELM327 device and either Torque Pro or Forscan downloaded to your phone. Not sure about how much the ELM device is but Torque and Forscan are both like $5 each.

Forscan is a much better code reader and is able to display many more PIDs. Torque I feel is better for everyday monitoring.
 
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Old Mar 8, 2020 | 11:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Motohead911
The best bang for the buck would be an ELM327 device and either Torque Pro or Forscan downloaded to your phone. Not sure about how much the ELM device is but Torque and Forscan are both like $5 each.

Forscan is a much better code reader and is able to display many more PIDs. Torque I feel is better for everyday monitoring.
Well that will work. I already have the ELM327 and Torque Pro on my phone. All I need to do is figure out the gauges I need to have on the screen for it.
 
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Old Mar 9, 2020 | 12:02 AM
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Ok have you added the extra PIDs for ford?

If not goto settings in Torque, then manage extra PIDs, then press on the three dots in the upper right corner and select the Ford PIDs which include Powerstroke. Then return to the home screen.

Now for selecting the PIDs you want to monitor have the ELM device in the OBD port, turn your key to the run position, open torque, connect to the truck, goto the Realtime Information, now you can add your PIDs. Press and hold the screen, torque will ask what type of gauge do you want, select what ever style you like. Torque will then goto the PID selection screen. Here is why you want the key in the run position, torque will highlight in green the PIDs that are active for your truck when connected. Choose what one you want to monitor. Repeat for each PID.

 
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Here is an example of what I monitor.
 
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Old Mar 9, 2020 | 10:11 AM
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That's some great help Motohead911! Those are all good parameters to monitor. I have DashBoss and monitor Engine Coolant, Engine oil, FICM Volts, Battery volts, IPR psi, Fan %, Injection timing, Tranny temp, FICM Sync and more. I want to add Fuel pressure but have yet to get the requisite kit for the sensor install. This worries me a bit as fuel pressure is critical to injector health.

It is easy to pull the EGR using a "ladyslipper?" type pry bar. Get under the flanges and pry upwards evenly, alternating sides to gradually extract it. The health of your EGR cooler can usually be indicated with what type of carbon (gummy and wet vs. sooty and flaky) you find. The valve can be cleaned and reused as long as you don't flood too much Brakleen into it. I like having a spare to switch in so I can clean the other at my leisure. If reusing you will need a new O-ring for it.

Watch as much of Diesel Tech Ron's videos (may he RIP) as you can. He is excellent at explaining many of the most common problems and providing straightforward solutions. There are others here that can give you additional help, especially with systems that owners have had more recent experiences. Many of these trucks are entering the 200,000 mile plus club and this is revealing new strengths and weaknesses.
 
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