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Old Feb 29, 2020 | 12:04 PM
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Trying to understand different spring pack setups

So I’m in the market for a new 250 with the 7.3.

Ive driven a tremor and a sport.

I noticed immediately how better the ride was on the sport and starting looking at the springs.

I noticed on the sport port it only had 3 leafs and NO overload spring.

I came to realize you can’t get the camper pkg on the sport because of the 20” wheels I assume.

So so my main question is on the sport pkg if you hook up a bumper hitch trailer with about 2000 pounds hitch weight, will the truck be sacked out?

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Old Feb 29, 2020 | 12:23 PM
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Im not sure if its changed for 2020, but my 19 F250 says max tongue wieght of 1500lbs. You can get the high capacity trailer tow package, that will give you more springs and maybe more hitch capacity, but then you might be riding like that Tremor.

What is the total wieght of the bumper pull trailer you might tow? 2000lb tongue wieght sounds like a heavy load.

Sorry, just noticed tou said 7.3l, scratch that tow package.
 
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Old Feb 29, 2020 | 12:31 PM
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My F-350 had the maximum tongue weight for an SRW at 1,800 lbs I believe. So you're not going to get 2K on an F-250. But yes, that's going to squat bad.
 
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Old Feb 29, 2020 | 12:31 PM
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14000 pound trailer.
15% tongue weight equals 2100 pounds.
 
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Old Feb 29, 2020 | 01:44 PM
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This is an honest question and not poking in any way.

I'm always surprised by the number of people that buy or are planning on buying a 250 and then fretting over the weight it will carry, tow, etc. For such a relatively small price difference, why not just get a 350 and be done with it? Is it ride? Is it availability?

Seems like all of the heavier duty components you get with the 350 plus the peace of mind would be worth it.
 
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Old Feb 29, 2020 | 01:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Brian Exline
This is an honest question and not poking in any way.

I'm always surprised by the number of people that buy or are planning on buying a 250 and then fretting over the weight it will carry, tow, etc. For such a relatively small price difference, why not just get a 350 and be done with it? Is it ride? Is it availability?

Seems like all of the heavier duty components you get with the 350 plus the peace of mind would be worth it.
Because of some locations automatically treating the 350 like a commercial vehicle. Here they are prohibited from truck routes and if you use your truck to get to a jobsite as a tradeperson it needs to have actual commercial plates. So at that point you have to have a logbook, limited to 13 hours on time etc. Just like you were driving a semi. No thanks.
 
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Old Feb 29, 2020 | 03:21 PM
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Originally Posted by 03griz
Because of some locations automatically treating the 350 like a commercial vehicle. Here they are prohibited from truck routes and if you use your truck to get to a jobsite as a tradeperson it needs to have actual commercial plates. So at that point you have to have a logbook, limited to 13 hours on time etc. Just like you were driving a semi. No thanks.
You have no clue at all, do you?
 
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Old Feb 29, 2020 | 03:47 PM
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Originally Posted by 03griz
Because of some locations automatically treating the 350 like a commercial vehicle. Here they are prohibited from truck routes and if you use your truck to get to a jobsite as a tradeperson it needs to have actual commercial plates. So at that point you have to have a logbook, limited to 13 hours on time etc. Just like you were driving a semi. No thanks.
Where in the US is this the case for personal use vehicles? Never heard of that before and would be surprised to find out it's accurate.
 
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Old Feb 29, 2020 | 05:18 PM
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Originally Posted by 03griz
Because of some locations automatically treating the 350 like a commercial vehicle. Here they are prohibited from truck routes and if you use your truck to get to a jobsite as a tradeperson it needs to have actual commercial plates. So at that point you have to have a logbook, limited to 13 hours on time etc. Just like you were driving a semi. No thanks.
Someone's been giving you bad information, unless of course you just made this up.
 
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Old Feb 29, 2020 | 06:19 PM
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Profile shows he's in Canada. Maybe it's a Canadian thing. /shrug

Regardless, I seriously doubt that's the case anywhere in the U.S. so I guess my question stands.
 
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Old Feb 29, 2020 | 06:32 PM
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Originally Posted by cameronskidoo
14000 pound trailer.
15% tongue weight equals 2100 pounds.
I think they figure 10% on the bumper pull. My hitch says 15000 max trailer wieght, 1500lb max tongue weight. A 350 short bed might say 18000 trailer, 1800 tongue wieght.
 
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Old Feb 29, 2020 | 06:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Brian Exline
This is an honest question and not poking in any way.

I'm always surprised by the number of people that buy or are planning on buying a 250 and then fretting over the weight it will carry, tow, etc. For such a relatively small price difference, why not just get a 350 and be done with it? Is it ride? Is it availability?

Seems like all of the heavier duty components you get with the 350 plus the peace of mind would be worth it.
The OP didnt like the ride of the Tremor, they have the 350 rear springs. Thats why hes trying to see if a standard 250 will work, for the softer ride. At least thats my understanding.

For bumper pull, the 250 is fine in most cases, its when you get into gooseneck and 5th wheel that people start to sweat it, because of the lower number on the yellow sticker. The 350 doesn't really have many "heavier duty components" compared to an F250. A heavier duty rear axle, and additional leaf springs is the extent of it. Both of wich come with the F250 Tremor too.

I purchased an F250, but I knew exactly what its capable of, what I would be using it for, and knew that it would be more than sufficient for my intended use. For me it came down to a specific set of options, I found 3 F250's with the options I wanted. If for some reason all I could find were F350's with the options I wanted, I would have bought one. For no other reason than the options.
 
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Old Feb 29, 2020 | 07:12 PM
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What I do want is the sport pkg with the camper pkg.

but ford wont allow that.

And whats also is dumb with their packaging is that the 5th wheel prep is available on a sport pkg, but you can’t get the camper pkg??

Im sure there’s a lot of people that buy the 5th wheel prep and sport pkg and when they hook up there trailer, they become disappointed that they have to look to the aftermarket for suspension upgrades.

Doesn’t make sense to me.

Does anyone actually know the weight ratings on the 20” wheels vs 18”?
 
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Old Feb 29, 2020 | 07:14 PM
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Originally Posted by cameronskidoo
What I do want is the sport pkg with the camper pkg.

but ford wont allow that.

And whats also is dumb with their packaging is that the 5th wheel prep is available on a sport pkg, but you can’t get the camper pkg??

Im sure there’s a lot of people that buy the 5th wheel prep and sport pkg and when they hook up there trailer, they become disappointed that they have to look to the aftermarket for suspension upgrades.

Doesn’t make sense to me.

Does anyone actually know the weight ratings on the 20” wheels vs 18”?
If you get the diesel, I think they allow the high capacity tow package, even with the Sport. Aside from the rear sway bar, Im not sure how it differs from the camper package.
 
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Old Feb 29, 2020 | 08:33 PM
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Originally Posted by cameronskidoo
...Does anyone actually know the weight ratings on the 20” wheels vs 18”?
They all have the same load capacity spec: 3590 lbs.

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