2020 box dimension
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2020 box dimension
Can someone tell me what the distance is from the cab to goose ball in a 2020 super duty crew cab short box with factory gooseneck tow prep? I know the new short beds are a few inches longer, but I don't know if they added the length in front of or behind the axle.
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I'm new to Ford. Maybe it was GM that only changed for 2020. In any case, my old Chevy had a 78" box. I'm looking for the dimension from cab to goose ball on the new Ford short bed trucks. I forgot to bring my tape measure with me to the dealership.
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Thanks Jason. Even with the offset I can get from some of the gooseball mounted hitches, I don't think it would be enough to clear the cab. Better stick with a slider hitch I guess. Damnit I was hoping I could get something that doesn't weight a million pounds.
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What are you pulling? I do have the radius package on my fifth wheel and it works great. I can almost do 90 degrees. I have the goose neck package on my truck and absolutely love it! I would never go back to the hitch in the bed. I love having my bed available. If you can make it work it's worth it. Take a look at the Reese 94720 Box pin 2nd generation it might help you get the clearance you need.
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- The Andersen, if you switch the block the right way, can supposedly move the pivot back 9". I'm not sure how that works, considering the design, I'd say it's pivot point was only 4 or 5" back, but it's what they claim.
- A Reese Revolution/Sidewinder or the TrailAir Turning Point can move your pivot point back to where the kingpin attaches to the trailer. Supposedly supposed to gain you up to 22" of pivot.
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What are you pulling? I do have the radius package on my fifth wheel and it works great. I can almost do 90 degrees. I have the goose neck package on my truck and absolutely love it! I would never go back to the hitch in the bed. I love having my bed available. If you can make it work it's worth it. Take a look at the Reese 94720 Box pin 2nd generation it might help you get the clearance you need.
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There are alternatives to slider hitches available.
- The Andersen, if you switch the block the right way, can supposedly move the pivot back 9". I'm not sure how that works, considering the design, I'd say it's pivot point was only 4 or 5" back, but it's what they claim.
- A Reese Revolution/Sidewinder or the TrailAir Turning Point can move your pivot point back to where the kingpin attaches to the trailer. Supposedly supposed to gain you up to 22" of pivot.
They do look to be larger and heavier than the Pullrites though.
I've seen a lot of passionate discussion online about the Andersen. I will not be going that route. If I could get the clearance from the similarly designed Pullrite Superlight I would prefer that hitch.
Like red44daze suggested, for the price of a slider, I could get a goosebox. The downside to that one is the effort to install it and if you sell the trailer, you'll probably leave it on there and have to buy another for your next trailer.
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Demco autosliders look like a good hitch. Their factory is 30 minutes down the road from me.
They do look to be larger and heavier than the Pullrites though.
I've seen a lot of passionate discussion online about the Andersen. I will not be going that route. If I could get the clearance from the similarly designed Pullrite Superlight I would prefer that hitch.
Like red44daze suggested, for the price of a slider, I could get a goosebox. The downside to that one is the effort to install it and if you sell the trailer, you'll probably leave it on there and have to buy another for your next trailer.
They do look to be larger and heavier than the Pullrites though.
I've seen a lot of passionate discussion online about the Andersen. I will not be going that route. If I could get the clearance from the similarly designed Pullrite Superlight I would prefer that hitch.
Like red44daze suggested, for the price of a slider, I could get a goosebox. The downside to that one is the effort to install it and if you sell the trailer, you'll probably leave it on there and have to buy another for your next trailer.
1) There's no option for an offset. The Ford goose ball is round, so you can't use an offset ball like some of the square ones. It'll be like towing with a fixed, non-sliding hitch. I'd have to watch closer for clearances than I do with my auto slide.
2) The GooseBox doesn't count as a 'fifth wheel hitch assembly' as defined by our licensing standards here in Ontario. There's certain allowances we're granted as long as it's a self contained house trailer connected by a fifth wheel hitch assembly. (Note, as far as I've been able to determine, the Andersen also doesn't count as a fifth wheel hitch assembly, and therefore, also doesn't gain the allowances.)
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I like the concept of the Goosebox, as having the ability to use my bed is a great option, but I've got two major problems with it:
1) There's no option for an offset. The Ford goose ball is round, so you can't use an offset ball like some of the square ones. It'll be like towing with a fixed, non-sliding hitch. I'd have to watch closer for clearances than I do with my auto slide.
2) The GooseBox doesn't count as a 'fifth wheel hitch assembly' as defined by our licensing standards here in Ontario. There's certain allowances we're granted as long as it's a self contained house trailer connected by a fifth wheel hitch assembly. (Note, as far as I've been able to determine, the Andersen also doesn't count as a fifth wheel hitch assembly, and therefore, also doesn't gain the allowances.)
1) There's no option for an offset. The Ford goose ball is round, so you can't use an offset ball like some of the square ones. It'll be like towing with a fixed, non-sliding hitch. I'd have to watch closer for clearances than I do with my auto slide.
2) The GooseBox doesn't count as a 'fifth wheel hitch assembly' as defined by our licensing standards here in Ontario. There's certain allowances we're granted as long as it's a self contained house trailer connected by a fifth wheel hitch assembly. (Note, as far as I've been able to determine, the Andersen also doesn't count as a fifth wheel hitch assembly, and therefore, also doesn't gain the allowances.)
2. Pretty sure this doesn't apply here in the U.S.A.
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2. Yeah, those rules don't even apply throughout Canada, just in Ontario.... But since I live in Ontario, it's a benefit to me to stick with fiver.
Overall, I'd say your best bet for clearance with a non sliding hitch is the Revolution/Sidewinder/Turning Point style kingpins. It's the route I wanted to go, but the new kingpin and a new standard hitch was almost double what the Demco ran me at my local dealer's rates.
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1. Right, you're pretty much relying on the radius of the nose cap on the fiver, and the fact the Ford's a 6.75 bed vs the other guys 6.5 bed. Combine the two and supposedly most people don't have a problem.... But I can't speak from experience, like I mentioned before, I've got an auto slide in mine.
2. Yeah, those rules don't even apply throughout Canada, just in Ontario.... But since I live in Ontario, it's a benefit to me to stick with fiver.
Overall, I'd say your best bet for clearance with a non sliding hitch is the Revolution/Sidewinder/Turning Point style kingpins. It's the route I wanted to go, but the new kingpin and a new standard hitch was almost double what the Demco ran me at my local dealer's rates.
2. Yeah, those rules don't even apply throughout Canada, just in Ontario.... But since I live in Ontario, it's a benefit to me to stick with fiver.
Overall, I'd say your best bet for clearance with a non sliding hitch is the Revolution/Sidewinder/Turning Point style kingpins. It's the route I wanted to go, but the new kingpin and a new standard hitch was almost double what the Demco ran me at my local dealer's rates.
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Demco: 2199.95+HST
Reese Manual Slider: 3181.95+HST
B&W Manual Slider: 2649.95+HST
A Reese Sidewinder + A Reese Elite fixed Hitch: $3680.90+HST (for both).
Mind you, if you can pop down to the States, it looks like etrailer has the same Demco I've got for only 1429 (USD) right now. https://www.etrailer.com/Fifth-Wheel...leID=201833021
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Mind you this, was a couple of years ago now, but going back and checking my mails, at the time my dealer quoted me:
Demco: 2199.95+HST
Reese Manual Slider: 3181.95+HST
B&W Manual Slider: 2649.95+HST
A Reese Sidewinder + A Reese Elite fixed Hitch: $3680.90+HST (for both).
Mind you, if you can pop down to the States, it looks like etrailer has the same Demco I've got for only 1429 (USD) right now. https://www.etrailer.com/Fifth-Wheel...leID=201833021
Demco: 2199.95+HST
Reese Manual Slider: 3181.95+HST
B&W Manual Slider: 2649.95+HST
A Reese Sidewinder + A Reese Elite fixed Hitch: $3680.90+HST (for both).
Mind you, if you can pop down to the States, it looks like etrailer has the same Demco I've got for only 1429 (USD) right now. https://www.etrailer.com/Fifth-Wheel...leID=201833021
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