4.0 2009 random weak spark
2009 ranger 4.0
A significant vacuum leak won't cause spark to randomly go missing, but the trouble shooting link suspect list of damaged wiring, connector pins/sockets, faulty sensors, or lastly the ECM belong way higher up on the suspect list, especially since you say the engine has just been pulled to fix other problems???
SO, if you didn't have this problem Before pulling & reinstalling the engine, have you performed a wiring, electrical connector, or sensor inspection for damage & a wiggle test, all the way from the ECM firewall electrical connection to the crank & cam sensors & coil pack, to see if you can cause the spark to go missing????
Have you checked the 5 volt reference to the crank & cam sensors to see if its present & passes the wiggle test??? Same for the coil pack B+ voltage @ KOEO.
Intermittent problems are the most challenging to trouble shoot, so don't get discouraged & give up, just hang in there & trouble shoot wisely & you'll likely find the culprit sooner or later.
More thoughts for consideration, let us know what you find.
A significant vacuum leak won't cause spark to randomly go missing, but the trouble shooting link suspect list of damaged wiring, connector pins/sockets, faulty sensors, or lastly the ECM belong way higher up on the suspect list, especially since you say the engine has just been pulled to fix other problems???
SO, if you didn't have this problem Before pulling & reinstalling the engine, have you performed a wiring, electrical connector, or sensor inspection for damage & a wiggle test, all the way from the ECM firewall electrical connection to the crank & cam sensors & coil pack, to see if you can cause the spark to go missing????
Have you checked the 5 volt reference to the crank & cam sensors to see if its present & passes the wiggle test??? Same for the coil pack B+ voltage @ KOEO.
Intermittent problems are the most challenging to trouble shoot, so don't get discouraged & give up, just hang in there & trouble shoot wisely & you'll likely find the culprit sooner or later.
More thoughts for consideration, let us know what you find.
At KOEO, do you have the 5 volt reference to the crank sensor??? It must be there for the Cam sensor if the plugs are wet with fuel, as if the cam sensor weren't working the fuel injectors wouldn't be squirting fuel because the computer wouldn't be getting a cam timing signal to have the ECM trigger the injectors. So from that we can infer the ECM is putting out something but is it a full 5 volts???
It seems to be enough for the cam sensor to send the ECM a strong enough signal for it to operate the injectors. So question now is the 5 volt reference making it to the Crank sensor & if it is, does the Crank sensor Return signal make it back to the firewall ECM connector as the wiring harness is wiggled between the crank sensor & the firewall ECM connector???
Thus we now need to know if that 5 volt reference is reaching the Crank sensor, as it's signal to the ECM is needed for the ECM ground switching drivers to ground switch the coil pack to make spark. If the 5 volts is making it to the crank sensor, is the return lead to the ECM firewall connector having that crank sensor return signal get all the way back to the firewall ECM connector & is the 5 volt reference & return signal steady when the wiring harness is wiggled??
Same for the coil pack 12 volt B+ being at the coil pack at KOEO & the coil pack return ground switched leads continuity & connections to the firewall ECM connector being complete & steady when its wiring run is flexed.
If all that checks out, then its time to put the ECM ground switching drivers on the suspect list, so call around to your favorite auto-parts stores to see if they can bench test the ECM. Or maybe see if a friend with a like vehicle, or say a friendly salvage yard has a ECM you could try.
If no substitute can be found, then disconnect the coil pack electrical connector & check the connector harness ground / Return leads to see if the ECM is switching them when the engine is cranked.
If the coil pack return leads aren't being ground switched by the ECM as the engine is cranked, the 12volt LED test light, connected between the coil pack electrical connector B+ pin & each ground / return lead won't blink when the engine is cranked, so you can then move the ECM up to the top spot on your suspect list.
More drill down trouble shooting thoughts for consideration, let us know what you find.
At KOEO, do you have the 5 volt reference to the crank sensor??? It must be there for the Cam sensor if the plugs are wet with fuel, as if the cam sensor weren't working the fuel injectors wouldn't be squirting fuel because the computer wouldn't be getting a cam timing signal to have the ECM trigger the injectors. So from that we can infer the ECM is putting out something but is it a full 5 volts???
It seems to be enough for the cam sensor to send the ECM a strong enough signal for it to operate the injectors. So question now is the 5 volt reference making it to the Crank sensor & if it is, does the Crank sensor Return signal make it back to the firewall ECM connector as the wiring harness is wiggled between the crank sensor & the firewall ECM connector???
Thus we now need to know if that 5 volt reference is reaching the Crank sensor, as it's signal to the ECM is needed for the ECM ground switching drivers to ground switch the coil pack to make spark. If the 5 volts is making it to the crank sensor, is the return lead to the ECM firewall connector having that crank sensor return signal get all the way back to the firewall ECM connector & is the 5 volt reference & return signal steady when the wiring harness is wiggled??
Same for the coil pack 12 volt B+ being at the coil pack at KOEO & the coil pack return ground switched leads continuity & connections to the firewall ECM connector being complete & steady when its wiring run is flexed.
If all that checks out, then its time to put the ECM ground switching drivers on the suspect list, so call around to your favorite auto-parts stores to see if they can bench test the ECM. Or maybe see if a friend with a like vehicle, or say a friendly salvage yard has a ECM you could try.
If no substitute can be found, then disconnect the coil pack electrical connector & check the connector harness ground / Return leads to see if the ECM is switching them when the engine is cranked.
If the coil pack return leads aren't being ground switched by the ECM as the engine is cranked, the 12volt LED test light, connected between the coil pack electrical connector B+ pin & each ground / return lead won't blink when the engine is cranked, so you can then move the ECM up to the top spot on your suspect list.
More drill down trouble shooting thoughts for consideration, let us know what you find.
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Is this circled connector pin the crank sensor ECM 5 volt feed, or the Return signal lead from the crank sensor back to the computer????
Is that pin/socket firmly locked into place, such that its not being pushed back when the socket is plugged in???
Is this circled connector pin the crank sensor ECM 5 volt feed, or the Return signal lead from the crank sensor back to the computer???? Circled is the Cam sensor pin. The firewall pin has 5 volts. When conector attached I get no power through the connector. I probed the wire and nothing. I did at one point get power when barely plugged in, but would loose power then pushed in and latched. Tried wiggling, pulling, pushing, twisting with no change.
Is that pin/socket firmly locked into place, such that its not being pushed back when the socket is plugged in???
While the ECM firewall connector is off, test both the 5 volt feed & return wires for a short to ground, so you know a wiring run short between the connector & sensors isn't pulling the 5 volts down when the connector is in place.
Then plug the cam & crank sensors in one at a time, measure the 5 volts again at the sensors to make sure the sensors aren't shorted internally, or that the return lead isn't shorted to ground.
If the problem seems to be in the ECM side connector, disconnect the Battery B- cable, drop the clove box door down, remove the glove box lining so you can get at the ECM mounting fasteners & remove the ECM.
Open it up & check those pins that make with the suspect plug connection. Check for a cracked pin, or cold solder connection to the circuit board.
Keep looking, it sounds like you've found a good suspect area for trouble shooting.
With the connector disconnected at the sensor on the cam sensor I get nothing, but get 5 volts at the firewall pin from the computer.
While the ECM firewall connector is off, test both the 5 volt feed & return wires for a short to ground, so you know a wiring run short between the connector & sensors isn't pulling the 5 volts down when the connector is in place. No problems with the wires that I can determine.
Then plug the cam & crank sensors in one at a time, measure the 5 volts again at the sensors to make sure the sensors aren't shorted internally, or that the return lead isn't shorted to ground. No problems here
If the problem seems to be in the ECM side connector, disconnect the Battery B- cable, drop the clove box door down, remove the glove box lining so you can get at the ECM mounting fasteners & remove the ECM. Do I need to do this to find out why I'm only getting 1.5 volts to the Crank sensor.
Open it up & check those pins that make with the suspect plug connection. Check for a cracked pin, or cold solder connection to the circuit board.
Keep looking, it sounds like you've found a good suspect area for trouble shooting.
Is there a source for a new harness, or do I have to repair this one?







