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Has anyone installed one of these or have an alternative that they installed on any vehicle? I'm very close to finishing my suspension and moving on to the drive train.
I had given up on an OD for my 4wd and decided to go with 3.00 gears and use the transfer case as a splitter if I needed a lower gear. I actually located and bought the 3.00 ring and pinion for the Dana 44. But a would much prefer an actually shift-able OD. I'm interested in the quality of the unit as well as the fit. Mine is a shorty so I'm limited to how far I can move back. The good news is this truck is strictly a toy, wont be worked hard so if the driveshaft angle is a bit much I probably wont hurt it.
Any info would be appreciated.
In my buddy's truck he has run a Warn overdrive for years. The shift lever closest to the seats. It uses a ravigneaux gearset. The oiler is from a Briggs and Stratton lawnmower engine.
That particular one bolts to the back of an NP435 after removing the output flange housing.
But, they are very rare so probably not a viable choice.
In my buddy's truck he has run a Warn overdrive for years. The shift lever closest to the seats. It uses a ravigneaux gearset. The oiler is from a Briggs and Stratton lawnmower engine.
That particular one bolts to the back of an NP435 after removing the output flange housing.
But, they are very rare so probably not a viable choice.
I was looking for something way back when I first got my '65 100, that was probably 20 years ago, and I thought I had found a 2 speed that mounted in front of the trans, similar to the Advance adapters unit, but it was only 2" thick. But I started looking for it a couple of years ago for this project and couldn't find it. Not sure if I made it up or just was searching wrong. The AA unit looks like a take if I have enough room on the shorty chassis. I'm almost done with my suspension mods so once I get it assembled and sitting on wheels I'll bolt the trans/transfer case up and see how it looks. I'd pay the $16 for it, if I think I can make it work.
I would however love to hear from somebody that has one and knows it's dependable.
Eric
PS; I'm doing the twin stick too so my floors gonna get pretty cluttered.
Twin stick is great. Then you can go backwards in 2WD low range. Lol.
Ya it's great for backing trailers, I put one in my '76 CJ7 a couple of years ago. IT also makes it easier to shift out of 4wd on the beach, the single stick used to argue with me.
Good looking Jeep. I go in just a couple of hours to pick up my Dads 2005 Jeep Rubicon at the repair shop. He's 88 now and recently rear-ended a dump truck. Dump truck didn't even stop so probably didn't even know Dad hit him. The Jeep was a mess. Pushed the right front tire back against the fender well opening, broke the front driveshaft, differential housing busted, sway bar mount on that side broke loose. Really did a number on it. They didn't total it but it took nearly 3 months to get it fixed!! I only have to pay his deductible but I'm really interested to hear what the total bill would have been.
Good looking Jeep. I go in just a couple of hours to pick up my Dads 2005 Jeep Rubicon at the repair shop. He's 88 now and recently rear-ended a dump truck. Dump truck didn't even stop so probably didn't even know Dad hit him. The Jeep was a mess. Pushed the right front tire back against the fender well opening, broke the front driveshaft, differential housing busted, sway bar mount on that side broke loose. Really did a number on it. They didn't total it but it took nearly 3 months to get it fixed!! I only have to pay his deductible but I'm really interested to hear what the total bill would have been.
Spend time with him while he's still here, my dad passed at 89 about 4 years ago. I miss playing with him on projects. About 6 months before he died, he rear ended a car about a mile from my house, when I got him home he handed me the keys. I think that was the end then. Still makes me sad.
EricJ,
Don't only look in this year of trucks look in all up to say the 87> If you don't do a search in FTE do a Google search and a lot point to FTE posts.
Mid 80's they started to install over drive transmissions from the factory but before that you had to go with some kind of bolt on unit for OD.
The only one I know that works in 4wheel drive is the Advance Adaptors one.
It would be great if it could be shifted by electric like a 2sp rear axle on larger trucks.
At one time they did but they were having issues with the motor so they dropped the electric shift and went with a lever.
I would also like to hear from others that have done this as I would like to add OD to my 81 F100 Flare Side, read short bed 4x2 truck with a T18 but soon to be NP435.
Dave ----
EricJ,
Don't only look in this year of trucks look in all up to say the 87> If you don't do a search in FTE do a Google search and a lot point to FTE posts.
Mid 80's they started to install over drive transmissions from the factory but before that you had to go with some kind of bolt on unit for OD.
The only one I know that works in 4wheel drive is the Advance Adaptors one.
It would be great if it could be shifted by electric like a 2sp rear axle on larger trucks.
At one time they did but they were having issues with the motor so they dropped the electric shift and went with a lever.
I would also like to hear from others that have done this as I would like to add OD to my 81 F100 Flare Side, read short bed 4x2 truck with a T18 but soon to be NP435.
Dave ----
I actually prefer the shifter rather than electric. I was weened on a B61 Mack with a 5 speed and a 4 speed aux box. I'll have 4 shifters three I can use on the road with 16 gear ratios. But I'm guessing a couple of those will be the same., You can never have too many gears or shifters.
I agree with you completely. Not sure if you'd seen this page and visual of the Ranger OD mounted in front of a transmission out of a vehicle and some pages of install instructions. They are very similar to the older Warn units that I pictured except in front of the transmission instead of behind and Warner designed instead of Warn designed. Same era, too. Warn might have been copying Warners design and someone might have stopped it. Like lawyers perhaps. I know Warn won't say much about these older units when people try to contact them about those. The Warn units basically never made it into heavy production.
If you read that information about the Ford transmissions the Ranger doesn't support transmissions with the 7 1/2" long input shafts. That's what the NP435s have in the 1965/66 4x4 trucks with the front and rear engine mounts. Both the 352 and the 6 cylinder makes no difference.
Note: These units are only for the Ford 4 speed transmissions and will bolt directly to the 4 speed and bellhousing with only minor modifications. Driveline and floorboard modifications are required. Note: We do not offer a 7-1/2"long input shaft option.
If you read that information about the Ford transmissions the Ranger doesn't support transmissions with the 7 1/2" long input shafts. That's what the NP435s have in the 1965/66 4x4 trucks with the front and rear engine mounts. Both the 352 and the 6 cylinder makes no difference.
Note: These units are only for the Ford 4 speed transmissions and will bolt directly to the 4 speed and bellhousing with only minor modifications. Driveline and floorboard modifications are required. Note: We do not offer a 7-1/2"long input shaft option.
Not sure where they measure from, but from the 4 bolt flange it's 5-1/2, and from the face of the trans where it bolts to the bell housing it is 6-1/2. My drivetrain came out of a '79 F-150 4wd shorty.
Eric
Not sure where they measure from, but from the 4 bolt flange it's 5-1/2, and from the face of the trans where it bolts to the bell housing it is 6-1/2. My drivetrain came out of a '79 F-150 4wd shorty.
Eric
Yes, they measure from the front face of the transmission.
You can also tell by the length of the throwout bearing retainer. If yous is the 4.57" overall length then you have the stickout you need but if it uses the 5.39" overall length retainer then you can't use the Ranger OD.
I'm good then. I finished all the parts for the front suspension yesterday, so I'm back on the rear. Once I get it on the ground with wheels on it I just have to mess with the load levelers then I can play with the engine/trans/transfer. I'll make the decision then before I disassemble the chassis.
, You can never have too many gears or shifters.
