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Old Jan 19, 2020 | 02:10 PM
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Ignition Module 77 F250?

Hey guys, for some reason, after sitting for a couple months, all if a sudden my F250 w/400 lost spark. I got the truck, and it had an MSD distributor and Blaster 2 coil. I need to go through the checks, but cant seem to locate an ignition module. Where should I be looking for this, or is there something I am missing with the MSD?
 
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Old Jan 19, 2020 | 02:51 PM
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Put a multimeter on the positive and negative coil terminals. You should see something.

If not, grab a new ignition module from rock. It'll be like $50 shipped
 
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Old Jan 19, 2020 | 03:02 PM
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Originally Posted by angry_fred
Put a multimeter on the positive and negative coil terminals. You should see something.

If not, grab a new ignition module from rock. It'll be like $50 shipped
I'm not seeing an ignition module anywhere. Where should it be located?
 
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Old Jan 19, 2020 | 03:06 PM
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The MSD distributor means you may have a self-contained ignition as opposed to the factory Dura Spark with a separate module on the driver's side wheel well/fender area.
You see any part numbers anywhere on the distributor? How many wires coming out of it, and what color?
Might have to pop the cap off and take a peek inside.

But have you verified power to all the usual places? Lots of things can fail from sitting. Ignition modules included perhaps, but not the highest on the list.

When in doubt, post up a picture or four of your under-hood area. Distributor, battery and starter relay/solenoid area, driver's wheel well, etc.

Thanks. And good luck!

Paul
 
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Old Jan 19, 2020 | 03:06 PM
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In the distributor
 
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Old Jan 19, 2020 | 03:12 PM
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Not sure which motor you have, but heres the link from my truck (75 with a 360).... It should give you an idea of how rock structures their site for this part: https://www.rockauto.com/en/catalog/...ule+(icm),7172

I think the ignition module in 77 was different so don't order it from the link.
 
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Old Jan 19, 2020 | 04:35 PM
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Originally Posted by 1TonBasecamp
The MSD distributor means you may have a self-contained ignition as opposed to the factory Dura Spark with a separate module on the driver's side wheel well/fender area.
You see any part numbers anywhere on the distributor? How many wires coming out of it, and what color?
Might have to pop the cap off and take a peek inside.

But have you verified power to all the usual places? Lots of things can fail from sitting. Ignition modules included perhaps, but not the highest on the list.

When in doubt, post up a picture or four of your under-hood area. Distributor, battery and starter relay/solenoid area, driver's wheel well, etc.

Thanks. And good luck!

Paul
Thanks Paul! That's exactly what I was wondering. The spot where the original module should be doesnt have anything. I am not with the truck now, but I will get some information when I get back to it. All I know without looking is, the distributor is red, and so is the "Blaster 2" coil.
 
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Old Jan 19, 2020 | 10:36 PM
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Ford's Duraspark 2
It was mounted just above the driver's side inside fender with three machine thread screws. It's called the ignition control module (ICM). Someone likely changed it for better performance and/or reliability.
 
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Old Jan 20, 2020 | 02:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Ozzie H.

Ford's Duraspark 2
It was mounted just above the driver's side inside fender with three machine thread screws. It's called the ignition control module (ICM). Someone likely changed it for better performance and/or reliability.
Yep, that's exactly what I was looking for, but didn't see it. I do however recall seeing some empty screw holes where this would have been mounted, and some similar wire connectors on that side of the engine bay just dangling there not connected. I'll confirm when I get back to the truck in the next day or two. So to confirm, if this is gone, the MSD distributor handles this internally? Is something in the distributor a good culprit for my non-spark issue? Or the blaster 2 coil? Or both? Again, I'll get some MSD info when I can.
 
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Old Jan 20, 2020 | 03:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Fordmaicoman
Yep, that's exactly what I was looking for, but didn't see it. I do however recall seeing some empty screw holes where this would have been mounted, and some similar wire connectors on that side of the engine bay just dangling there not connected. I'll confirm when I get back to the truck in the next day or two. So to confirm, if this is gone, the MSD distributor handles this internally? Is something in the distributor a good culprit for my non-spark issue? Or the blaster 2 coil? Or both? Again, I'll get some MSD info when I can.
If the original wire connectors were dangling, probably the ignition control has been taken over by the MSD. Some people have been known to relocate the Ford ICM to avoid the heat (heat seems to be it's enemy). Whatever controls the switching in the distributor or the coil could be at fault (or even a wire connection). An MSD expert could provide better advice than I.
 
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Old Jan 20, 2020 | 07:53 PM
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MSD has made the worst ignitions you can buy for years. do yourself a favor and dump it.
 
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Hmm, is it even remotely possible that someone swiped your ignition module?
Like an empty tank of gas after some local delinquents get ahold of your gas, maybe someone pilfered your Dura Spark module.
Or instead of delinquents, maybe it's some of your Maico riding buddies playing a trick on you!
Hey, it could happen with some friends!

Since we still haven't seen which distributor you have, or the insides of it, it's hard to tell. They have what they call "ready to run" models that are just that. Simply connect a couple of wires and the coil, and you're ready to run. They have others that require some sort of external control module.
But they may also still have stock replacements with just the magnetic trigger inside. That type would use a stock or similar module.

The plot thickens, and the mystery deepens!
Good luck.

Paul
 
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Old Jan 20, 2020 | 10:07 PM
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Originally Posted by 1TonBasecamp
Hmm, is it even remotely possible that someone swiped your ignition module?
Like an empty tank of gas after some local delinquents get ahold of your gas, maybe someone pilfered your Dura Spark module.
Or instead of delinquents, maybe it's some of your Maico riding buddies playing a trick on you!
Hey, it could happen with some friends!

Since we still haven't seen which distributor you have, or the insides of it, it's hard to tell. They have what they call "ready to run" models that are just that. Simply connect a couple of wires and the coil, and you're ready to run. They have others that require some sort of external control module.
But they may also still have stock replacements with just the magnetic trigger inside. That type would use a stock or similar module.

The plot thickens, and the mystery deepens!
Good luck.

Paul
The thought crossed my mind! The truck is at my property where I'm building my new house. It's pretty deep in the sticks, and I have cameras, but it could definitely happen. I'm heading out there tomorrow after work. I'll keep everyone posted.
 
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Old Jan 21, 2020 | 02:07 AM
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Some photos would be helpful. Just remove the distributor cap and make a photo of what's inside. Then the guys who know MSD will be able to give better advice.
 
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Old Jan 21, 2020 | 07:36 AM
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There is a ready to run MSD that does not use a module,it is similar to the mallory
 
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