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Old Jan 13, 2020 | 09:43 AM
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Electronic IWEs?

Read a "rumor" yesterday, that Ford has plans on going to an electronic engagement system, like GM, on our trucks? Anyone hear/see anything on that? Personally, I think they'd do better to return to manual hubs and a floor shifter, and leave the ESOF to the more sensitive crowd. But who am I?
 
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Old Jan 13, 2020 | 11:29 AM
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Darn right! Only sissies and crybabies are not willing to get out in the muck and grab hold of those muddy hubs to lock in. Wimps.
We real men should demand it! I'll feel like a stud and the girls will be impressed when I jump out of my big rig, lock in those hubs, and sling mud up all over my Truck Nutz.



Actually, I think Ford would be the laughing stock of the entire truck world if they had to go back to manual hubs and stopping to shift into 4wd.....all because they can't figure out how to make a proper product. Even back in 1989, I didn't have to get out of my truck to lock in.
There are a few that would applaud a change to manual hubs...but the other 99.7% of people don't want to have to mess with it. It's akin to going back to spinning a **** to change the radio station because someone can't figure out how to make buttons work.
We all know this wouldn't even be a topic if Ford had engineered a better design....it's a design issue....much like the sunroof and freezing locks.
 
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Old Jan 13, 2020 | 11:45 AM
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LOL, I see your point. That was only my opinion, guess I'm closer to caveman than modern man.
 
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Old Jan 13, 2020 | 11:52 AM
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We're probably all closer to cavemen than modern men than we'd like to admit.

If they do go electric, I do hope they will think it through a bit better than they did with the current system.
My hubs work fine with 58K on them, but with all the threads I've read over the IWE issue....it leaves some doubt in my mind about the reliability of certain parts of my truck.
In the end, I'll just keep driving it until something breaks. Then I'll get it fixed and drive it some more.
 
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Old Jan 13, 2020 | 12:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Kingofwylietx
We're probably all closer to cavemen than modern men than we'd like to admit.

If they do go electric, I do hope they will think it through a bit better than they did with the current system.
My hubs work fine with 58K on them, but with all the threads I've read over the IWE issue....it leaves some doubt in my mind about the reliability of certain parts of my truck.
In the end, I'll just keep driving it until something breaks. Then I'll get it fixed and drive it some more.
My thoughts exactly. I had no trouble on my '12, but the first time cold weather hit, I got the grind of death on my '17, with 500 miles or less on it. Figured it out and fixed it myself. Dealer couldn't replicate, so nothing they could do. I understand that.
Since all the complaints I read as well, sometimes I'm just waiting for something to happen again, luckily, I somewhat know the system, and the only thing that would bother me is the inconvenience.
We can only hope they come up with something a bit more reliable, but after three different generations, and basically just changing sides the solenoid and check valve are on, sorta/kinda have to wonder.
 
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Old Jan 13, 2020 | 12:30 PM
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I got tired of arguing with a dealer who couldn't duplicate the problem. I figured the only other alternative was to drive it the way it was, wait for it to eat itself up and then have it towed to the dealer and see if he could find THAT problem.

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When the weather turns cold I just unplug the electrical connector to the vacuum solenoid. Plug it back in come spring. Run all winter with the hubs "locked". The only downside is about a 1 mpg decrease in mileage.
 
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The F150 has used the same IWE system for 16 years now. It has its flaws like any ESOF but the system is dead simple to work on ( minus the dealers that don't understand a low vacuum causes issues more than no vacuum). There is millions of trucks running the system now so at least parts will be available for a long time.
 
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Old Jan 13, 2020 | 02:24 PM
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Originally Posted by PupnDuck
When the weather turns cold I just unplug the electrical connector to the vacuum solenoid. Plug it back in come spring. Run all winter with the hubs "locked". The only downside is about a 1 mpg decrease in mileage.
That's just what I tell people to do if they start having trouble, and can't fix it themselves, or have to wait to get it into a dealer.

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The F150 has used the same IWE system for 16 years now. It has its flaws like any ESOF but the system is dead simple to work on ( minus the dealers that don't understand a low vacuum causes issues more than no vacuum). There is millions of trucks running the system now so at least parts will be available for a long time.
Ya, and there seems to be more than a few dealers that don't understand how it works. It is simple to work on, and parts aren't all that costly if you buy from an internet dealer like Tasca and others. I refuse to use anything but OEM, but from what I've heard, NAPA isn't bad either.
 
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It's akin to going back to spinning a **** to change the radio station because someone can't figure out how to make buttons work.
I have a spinning **** to change radio stations.
 
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