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Old Nov 16, 2019 | 02:44 AM
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what do your spool valves look like? I sanded (sorry, don´t know the right word) these, then they ran again.














If FICM and harness are ok, you in the USA have companies that can test HEUI injectors. We here in Merkel-Germany are not able to do that, I want to build something myself to check if a defective injector was really defective. It is always bad to exchange and not to know if the exchanged parts were really defective.


new valves: https://www.accuratediesel.com/6-0l-...valve-set.html
 
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Old Nov 16, 2019 | 04:14 AM
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So I swapped out the FICM with another off a running truck, Did The same thing ran for about 20 minutes then started to misfire. Shut it off and only had maybe 1 or 2 injectors buzzing. Definitely have a stiction issue going on. Maybe oil contamination? Let the vehicle sit for a couple days and the spool valves freed up by themselves. Maybe changing oil again and adding some of this stiction additive i'm seeing ?
What does injector buzz have to do with stiction? I thought the buzz was merely the solenoid getting power.
 
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Old Nov 16, 2019 | 04:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Hartwig
what do your spool valves look like? I sanded (sorry, don´t know the right word) these, then they ran again.

If FICM and harness are ok, you in the USA have companies that can test HEUI injectors. We here in Merkel-Germany are not able to do that, I want to build something myself to check if a defective injector was really defective. It is always bad to exchange and not to know if the exchanged parts were really defective.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LrOIT1-EILI

new valves: https://www.accuratediesel.com/6-0l-...valve-set.html
Damn man, you sure do put a lot of effort into testing! That is definitely a European mindset, but then most Americans these days don't know their way around a box of hand tools, let alone machine tools. Good on you. Keep it up.

I believe the word you were looking for is "polished", btw.
 
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Old Nov 16, 2019 | 06:39 AM
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I would expect those to be micro-honed.
 
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Old Nov 16, 2019 | 07:01 AM
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Originally Posted by TooManyToys.
I would expect those to be micro-honed.
Guys say they are made out of some very hard metal and 600-1000 grit cloth cleans varnish off? I don’t know.
hartwig I have a full set of new spool valves and solenoids. I will message you info if you are interested.
 
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Old Nov 16, 2019 | 07:36 AM
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We had a division that made hydraulic pumps, controls and landing gear (Abex-Dennison). I got to visit one day. Hardened to not wear, and the spool valve tolerances were at 0.0002" if I remember correctly. Controlled leakage as they would say.

The company got sold off after a few years of my career with the company, Dennison is now part of Parker Hannifin, the parent of Racor.

As I believe Sean and Mark have pointed out, a later change to the spool valves was to increase leakage to prevent the hysteresis we can stiction.
 
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Old Nov 16, 2019 | 08:10 AM
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hartwig I have a full set of new spool valves and solenoids. I will message you info if you are interested.
Thank you, But I have the set from accurate Diesel ( as spare Part) I linked above.
 
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Old Nov 16, 2019 | 08:19 AM
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Thank you, But I have the set from accurate Diesel ( as spare Part) I linked above.
That’s where I got mine. I read your post again and realized!
 
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I might look into polishing them, i'm down for anything at this point. This thing has been racking my brain. Do you guys think I can have an oil contamination problem? Even though the oil is brand new from when i did the head gaskets. I used the 10W-30 bulk diesel oil that we carry at out shop
 
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Old Nov 19, 2019 | 11:34 PM
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Do you now have any DTCs after the actual misfires?
 
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