Another Dud by Ford
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Another Dud by Ford
But Ford will sell a ton of them anyway.
But people are listening. I read that Kia dealers cannot keep Tellurides in stock, and MSRPs are well into the $40k's.
https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews...kia-telluride/
But people are listening. I read that Kia dealers cannot keep Tellurides in stock, and MSRPs are well into the $40k's.
https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews...kia-telluride/
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Having just had a Kia as a rental it wasn't the worst. I only have two gripes with it were the hideous looking fog lights which look like a cheap afterthought and get rid of the name across the hood.
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the yellow DRLs also look like a cheap after thought as well to me.
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The comparison test is even worse. Car & Driver had very little nice to say.
For a clean sheet design, Ford could have, and should have, done better.
https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews...suvs-compared/
And Ford is having big quality issues, with many Explorers being shipped to Flat Rock for rework.
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/ford-...100000028.html
For a clean sheet design, Ford could have, and should have, done better.
https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews...suvs-compared/
And Ford is having big quality issues, with many Explorers being shipped to Flat Rock for rework.
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/ford-...100000028.html
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We used to own a Hyundai vehicle and it was a great car for the time. Kia/Hyundai have come a long way from that with heir designs and quality, and I would be willing to own another one of their vehicles. The Telluride is one that I've had my eye on for when we are due to replace my wife's vehicle. It seems like a good option, and I've started to see a ton of them on the road.
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To be fair, the Hyundai/Kia set a new paradigm for 3 row crossovers, irrespective of the manufacturer.
You cannot get either of the South Korea twins to sticker over $50k, even with every option available. And if you don't need 4WD or all the super fancy stuff, you can still get a really nicely equipped one for around $40k.
It is hard to keep competing 3 row crossovers from GM and FCA from staying under $50k.
But at least, for the money ($60k in Platinum trim, $53K in Limited trim), Ford should have given us a competitive 3 row crossover.
Chrysler invented the mini-van, and the Pacific is still very competitive in that segment.
Ford, while not inventing the 3 row SUV segment, pretty much owned the segment with the Explorer for over a decade. Now it is having trouble competing. What happened?
Remember the Taurus in the mid-1990s? It was on everyone's recommended mid-size car list. And now, Ford does even make it.
And let's not forget the pickup market (LD & HD). Yes, Ford's sales are still robust, but sales have been trending down and market share dropping.
You cannot get either of the South Korea twins to sticker over $50k, even with every option available. And if you don't need 4WD or all the super fancy stuff, you can still get a really nicely equipped one for around $40k.
It is hard to keep competing 3 row crossovers from GM and FCA from staying under $50k.
But at least, for the money ($60k in Platinum trim, $53K in Limited trim), Ford should have given us a competitive 3 row crossover.
Chrysler invented the mini-van, and the Pacific is still very competitive in that segment.
Ford, while not inventing the 3 row SUV segment, pretty much owned the segment with the Explorer for over a decade. Now it is having trouble competing. What happened?
Remember the Taurus in the mid-1990s? It was on everyone's recommended mid-size car list. And now, Ford does even make it.
And let's not forget the pickup market (LD & HD). Yes, Ford's sales are still robust, but sales have been trending down and market share dropping.
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I believe that Ford's biggest mistake in the US market is that they are trying too hard to compete with the European models and as such, the price jumps.
If I wanted a Beamer or a Benz, I'd go get one but I don't think that any of the high end Euro offerings are a good value. I'm not a rich man but I can own any thing that Ford sells minus the GT.
My problem is I remember all too well when I couldn't go and get what I wanted and had to settle for what I could afford. That mindset has never left me and I'll never pay more for a Ford than I would for a Hyundai in an apples to apples application.
BTW, I had a 1999 Taurus wagon, perhaps one of the best cars that I've ever owned. I gave it to my oldest daughter in 2012 with 140K on the clock, they added another 40K+ to the odometer before the transmission started to fail.
If I wanted a Beamer or a Benz, I'd go get one but I don't think that any of the high end Euro offerings are a good value. I'm not a rich man but I can own any thing that Ford sells minus the GT.
My problem is I remember all too well when I couldn't go and get what I wanted and had to settle for what I could afford. That mindset has never left me and I'll never pay more for a Ford than I would for a Hyundai in an apples to apples application. BTW, I had a 1999 Taurus wagon, perhaps one of the best cars that I've ever owned. I gave it to my oldest daughter in 2012 with 140K on the clock, they added another 40K+ to the odometer before the transmission started to fail.
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Ford (and others) seem to set the MSRP of its cars assuming that it will have to offer big rebates. This is especially true in trucks, where MSRP is really just an imaginary number.
Because of this, people are conditioned to expect rebates, and hold off buying until the rebates get big. A vicious cycle.
Because of this, people are conditioned to expect rebates, and hold off buying until the rebates get big. A vicious cycle.
So, I can get a $41K Exploder for around $10k+/- off MSRP plus 0% financing for 60 months when I add in either my $750 PCO or $500 AQHA rebates.
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