Those are max payloads and not a good example of actual trucks. Those payloads are all figured using base XL trucks with no additional options. Lots of F150 trucks have below 1400lbs payload as delivered.

 

That is rather deceptive.
Maybe we should stick with a Tundra, at least we then get the power back window and we know it can handle the load we have, it has for 13 years now.

 

What does the payload sticker on your Tundra have it rated at?

 

An F-150 with the Max tow package has better payload and towing capabilities then a Tundra. This thread ended up all over the place because not all the info was offered up in the beginning.

 

I went from a Tundra to F 150.

I liked the Tundra and drove it for 10 years it was mainly trouble free, but it liked to chew brakes up and an air pump went out (Toyota stepped up and paid the 3000 dollar bill despite the truck being well out of warranty) It also used a lot of fuel. I would have perhaps bought another but they do not have near the capacity of the Fords. I wanted more room going to a Crew Cab from a Regular and the Tundras seem to use the same suspension for all the models. I think you find that the capacity of a Tundra is very low (around 1300 pounds) This from the yellow door stickers on the many I looked at. As well I found they were much the same as my 2007 truck with very little changes.

The F 150 I ordered is a Lariat 500a long wheelbase Crew Cab with the 3.5 HDPP/MTTP has a payload of 2409 pounds, (yellow door sticker). I don't know were others get their information from. My Tundra was a 8 foot box Regular Cab with a payload of 1700 pounds. We have towed the same trailers with both and can offer an opinion. The Tundra towed as well as the Ford with regards to stability, perhaps a little better (28 foot Travel Trailer), but did not have nearly the power. The 3.5 EB does not need to go to redline to go up a mountain, and very relaxed experience. Fuel use while towing is a little better with the Ford and much better unloaded, (stay off the boost) The Ford's capacity is much higher. so much so that I sometimes wonder if I have too much. It is really hard to get the HDPP trucks to squat enough to set up my WDH. Will it be as durable as the Tundra, who knows ask me in 10 years.

I did a lot (too much) research and spoke to many dealers etc, to choose my truck. I thought I would offer my experiences and some some facts to help you with your choice.(not spectulation)
A really good website to look at is Hanna Motors they are an Ontario (Canada) dealer which often stocks HDPP trucks one of only two that I know of. The neat thing is they photo the door stickers of all their trucks and post them! No more guess work.

Good luck.

 

Thank you tree10!

Real road experience is exactly what I was looking for. The fact that you have driven and owned both is very helpful. I know the Tundra has a lower capacity, that is why we are looking at different brands otherwise we would stay with Toyota for durability. Like I mentioned above, we have driven it for 13 years and 235,000 miles. In the last couple years it has struggled to maintain highway speeds going up a 10% grade with the trailer and bed full.

I started this post with all the information about our maximum load and full trailer weight (minus the tongue wt. which I forgot) to show our worst case scenario. Our neighbor thought the 3.5L EB would be at redline much of the time but you say from experience that is not true. Most of the time the truck is not going to be fully loaded and towing.

We also are looking for better fuel economy which you agree it has. There are a couple other features I like that will make life more comfortable for our Great Dane who travels with us. But I will miss the full size, power back window in the Tundra full cab.

I too am known to do too much research and appreciate you sharing yours.

 

You will be surprised how strong the 3.5 EB will pull. You won’t be at the redline very often.

 

Thanks JKBrad!

 

+1. We pull a trailer up the Sierra and we generally don't get much above 2,000 RPM. The 3.5L EcoBoost generates close to 100% torque right around 2,000 RPM. Very flat torque curve.

 

You will be no where near redline with the 3.5 EB if fact IMO Ford has the trans set up to not shift down as much as I would like it,and just up the boost (Lariats have a boost gauge) Often I will manually shift down when going up a steep incline while rowing to keep off too much boost to save fuel. I think it works? Even so we are talking about 2500 -3000 rpm, very little drama. With our 6500 pound TT you can drive up a mountain pretty well at any speed you choose. I lock out 9 and 10 while towing and the engine loafs along at about 2000 rpm.

 

When climbing a grade, I find that just putting the tranny into tow/haul mode works well. It ups the RPM range from ~~ 1200 RPM to closer to 1600-1700 RPM and that backs off the boost.