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Old Sep 5, 2019 | 11:34 AM
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F250 Max Trailering Package

Does anybody have any hands-on experience with this package? Is it close to an F-350? Is it all just a numbers game? Yes I've tried searching but no real results.
 
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Old Sep 5, 2019 | 11:49 AM
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Does anybody have any hands-on experience with this package? Is it close to an F-350? Is it all just a numbers game? Yes I've tried searching but no real results.
It’s a physical 350 with 250 badges and GVW. Not sure if the 250 HCTP trucks get the 5 spring pack rear leafs or not. Checking on it.
 
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To get the rear overloads like a 350 with a High Capacity tow package equipped 250, it appears you will also need to add the camper package. Then it appears you would have a real 350 SRW with 250 badges and GVW. Maybe someone will chime in and verify.
 
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Old Sep 5, 2019 | 12:05 PM
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Originally Posted by UGA33
To get the rear overloads like a 350 with a High Capacity tow package equipped 250, it appears you will also need to add the camper package. Then it appears you would have a real 350 SRW with 250 badges and GVW. Maybe someone will chime in and verify.
I thought that you were still short an overall spring from the 350?
 
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Old Sep 5, 2019 | 12:15 PM
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On my 2017 at least. Dana M275 axle. 3 inch hitch. 4 rear leafs, slight softer spring rate than a 350.
 
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Truck I'm looking at has 4 springs without overloads.
Appears as though the package gives 20" wheels and upgraded rear axle.
 
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Originally Posted by Kaadk
I thought that you were still short an overall spring from the 350?

Appear to be right. 4 pack vs 5. Only one to get 5 is that 176” gas 4x2 250.


 
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Originally Posted by FOURBYBUD
Truck I'm looking at has 4 springs without overloads.
Appears as though the package gives 20" wheels and upgraded rear axle.

So guess not a 350 then. Missing a leaf and overload.

Staying 250 to keep at 10k GVW?
 
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Old Sep 5, 2019 | 02:35 PM
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Originally Posted by UGA33
So guess not a 350 then. Missing a leaf and overload.

Staying 250 to keep at 10k GVW?
Not really worried about GVW. More of a ride quality concern. Had a 2017 F350 Diesel CCSB with 5leaf packs and overloads that rode like a you were on a cloud. Now have a 2019 F250 CCSB gas that rides like a bucking bronco.
 
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Old Sep 5, 2019 | 02:42 PM
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Looking your chart above, the HCTP is like my F250 with the camper package, three main leafs and the aux overload (total of 4). Top line, notation 4.


 
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Now have a 2019 F250 CCSB gas that rides like a bucking bronco.
Which front springs do you have? My 2017 had Snow Plow Pkg with 5600 lbs springs. My 2019 has 4800 lbs springs and I CAN tell a difference.
 
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Originally Posted by h20camper
Which front springs do you have? My 2017 had Snow Plow Pkg with 5600 lbs springs. My 2019 has 4800 lbs springs and I CAN tell a difference.
My truck had the plow springs as well. I even swapped them out for 4400lb springs with a 1 1/2' spacer which kept the height the same. That improved the ride, but not a lot. I really believe it has to do with the weight difference from the diesel to the gas.
 
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Old Sep 5, 2019 | 04:29 PM
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That spring chart is and has always been wrong. There is no such thing as a F250 with five leaf springs.

I intended to purchase a F350 but this is a company truck and they would not pay me my vehicle allowance for a Class 3 truck (kicks in DOT requirements) so I had to purchase a F250. This prompted significant research on my part prior to special ordering the most capable F250 I could. At this point, I am an expert on the High Capacity Trailer Tow Package. The HCTTP includes the Dana M275 axle (same as F350), 3" receiver, overloads and 5600 front springs. It is only available with the Power Stroke. The camper package is unnecessary as the overloads are part of the HCTTP. On my platinum, the camper package wasn't even available due to the 20" wheels.

If you compared my Platinum F250 HCTTP to an identically equipped Platinum F350, the only physical difference would be the F250's three leafs in the main pack as compared to the F350's four. This results in a slightly lower deflection rate but nothing that you would ever actually notice from a ride quality standpoint. Springs are only one of the contributing factors and ride quality is super subjective. If you are dissatisfied with the ride quality of a F350, there is nothing about the F250 HCTTP that will necessarily alter that. If you hitched the same trailer to each truck, you also wouldn't notice a difference. I guess the 250 could squat a hair more but I suspect once the overloads are engaged, it's all the same.
 
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I tow a 10K plus 5th wheel and travel trailer. I ended up adding after market air shocks to tow level. Before adding them I had noticeable truck squat on my super duty
 
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Old Sep 5, 2019 | 10:27 PM
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Originally Posted by UGA33
Appear to be right. 4 pack vs 5. Only one to get 5 is that 176” gas 4x2 250. [...]
Not quite correct. The only F-250 to get 5 leaves is the 176" gas 4x2 with the HD Tow package. Of course, this is an impossible configuration since the HD Tow package is only available with diesel engines.

Some think this is a typo and that it means that a 176" gas 4x2 F-250 will have the 5 leaves.

I believe it's not a typo, but just a reference to a canceled option ... and the only configuration that would have received 5 leaves was never brought to market.
 
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