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Old Aug 3, 2019 | 10:31 PM
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Problems after mods

Okay. I'm having a major malfunction. I built a true dual exhaust system for my 94 f-150. Its got a 5.0 block and heads out of a 93 t bird. I used hooker long tube block huggers, magnaflow high flow converters, flowmaster 44s, and 2.5 inch plumbing. I put the oxygen sensor back in the same location as the old one.

Now the problem. My long term fuel trim is staying at a -56, which causes the af ratio to go completely rich. I assume this is why I keep blowing o2 sensors. The motor lopes, dies at times, gets crappy fuel mileage, and has no power, especially on hills. I heard through the grapevine that I need to convert to mass air flow sensor because it is a speed density motor. Will this work? And where can I get a conversion kit that doesnt cost an arm and a leg? Any help would be greatly appreciated.
 
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Old Aug 3, 2019 | 10:43 PM
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What kind of vacuum readings are you seeing at idle, and what is your base timing set at (with the spout connector removed)?
 
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Old Aug 3, 2019 | 10:47 PM
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20 hg of vacuum and base timing is set at 10 degrees. Also, the only code I'm getting is oxygen sensor indicates lean, which coincides with the -56 fuel trim.
 
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Old Aug 4, 2019 | 12:12 AM
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Your problem sounds eerily similar to mine after
the swap to 351. What heads are those off the T-bird? Did you check for correct push rod length? They could be too long causing the valves to stick open.
 
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Old Aug 4, 2019 | 12:58 AM
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The block and heads are stock to the t bird. I bolted everything else from my other engine on it. The pistons hypereutectic and the cam is the 351 firing order. That's the only difference other than the plenum.
 
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Old Aug 4, 2019 | 01:07 AM
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I had a 94 f150 with ported heads and a trick flow stage 1 that had a plainly noticeable lope with long tube hedman headers and 3 inch dual open exhaust out the back. I had the o2 sensor only into 1 exhaust bank. I really didnt have many driveability issues and it got about 12 mpg with 35 12.50s. I think something else is up. Do you have a low temp thermostat in it? Is the coolant temp sensor working? There should be 2 temp sensors in play one for the gauge and one for the ecu. Thermostat stuck open?
 
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Old Aug 4, 2019 | 01:15 AM
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I have the stock temp thermostat, the cts is working within specs and the thermostat isnt stuck open. It open and closes at the proper temp.
 
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Old Aug 4, 2019 | 03:02 AM
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Possibly an exhaust leak before the sensor?
 
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Old Aug 4, 2019 | 03:19 AM
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I do have an exhaust leak. Thing is, this truck only has 1 o2 sensor. This sensor is on the passenger bank. The leak is on the drivers bank.
 
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Old Aug 4, 2019 | 03:23 AM
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I wouldnt think a leak on drivers bank could effect the o2 sensor on opposite bank. Especially with no crossover pipe. Of course I have seen weirder.
 
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Old Aug 4, 2019 | 08:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Deltawolf81
.... and the cam is the 351 firing order.
Which camshaft did you use?
 
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Old Aug 4, 2019 | 02:32 PM
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Everything internal is stock to the 93 h.o. motor. The nokt ons are from my motor. The 302 h.o. has a 351 firing order.
 
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Old Aug 4, 2019 | 03:43 PM
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Yes, I’m aware of that but what I didn’t know/ remember is that the T-bird came with the H.O. engine. You have a ‘94 but don’t say what transmission so do you have Speed Density or MAF?
 
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Old Aug 4, 2019 | 03:57 PM
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You check you voltages for the sensor? You maybe melted the O2 wires with the new shorties & blew the fuse for the sensor?

Ask me how I know on the exact same truck.
 
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Old Aug 4, 2019 | 05:24 PM
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sorry. Trannys an m5r2 mazda 5 spd. Its a speed density. (Has the MAP). Fuse for o2 is fine. Wires are good. I made a bracket to hang the harness so it doesnt get against exhaust or any metal.
 
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