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Old May 27, 2019 | 07:04 PM
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Here in Vermont, I cannot get my truck inspected if the rear bumper is on because it obscures the license plate. The license plate right now hangs from the driver side tail light bracket and is mounted at the stock location. Likewise, my bumper is stock and mounted in the correct location. I was told that bumpers were optional back in 1953. Anyway, if I take the bumper off, it will pass inspection just fine, because no bumper is required on a stock 1953 truck. But, now I've decided to stray from stock and put the license plate on the bumper. But, I will need to have it illuminated. So, I'm looking for a couple of 6-volt license plate lights. I've not found any yet. I was wondering if a small 12 volt LED license plate light will work running on six volts. Even if it's dim, maybe it won't be any dimmer than any of the other 6-volt lighting that's on the truck now.
 
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Old May 27, 2019 | 08:09 PM
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Can you mount the tail light upside down and put the license plate above the light?
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Old May 27, 2019 | 08:35 PM
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the stock location WAS under the tail light... shouldn't that be 'grandfathered' in like single taillight ???
 
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Old May 27, 2019 | 09:06 PM
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Most LEDs care about voltage so the 12V will not work in your 6V system unless they are specifically labeled as such. On the other hand, any incandescent socket will work. Just install the correct bulb.
 
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Old May 27, 2019 | 10:38 PM
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I can't believe that they won't inspect it for that reason. What if you showed them actual dealer catalogs and pictures of the bumper and license plate both in the stock location?

I once had a young University police pull me over in my 54 F100 for having a missing headlight, just after I got it out of the body shop. He gave me a warning. I had to fix it in 3 days and report to his superior on campus!

He then told me he could have cited me for an instructed license plate. I told him, " This truck is a stock, unmolested truck. That bumper is in the stock location. The license plate holder is in the stock location. If you have a problem with that, call the Ford Motor Company!"
 
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Old May 28, 2019 | 07:09 AM
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I can't believe that they won't inspect it for that reason. What if you showed them actual dealer catalogs and pictures of the bumper and license plate both in the stock location?

I once had a young University police pull me over in my 54 F100 for having a missing headlight, just after I got it out of the body shop. He gave me a warning. I had to fix it in 3 days and report to his superior on campus!

He then told me he could have cited me for an instructed license plate. I told him, " This truck is a stock, unmolested truck. That bumper is in the stock location. The license plate holder is in the stock location. If you have a problem with that, call the Ford Motor Company!"

The whole inspection thing in Vermont is totally screwed up. It seems like the current inspections standards were successfully lobbied for and put it place by the National Auto Dealer Association lobby just to boost the sale of new cars. Because resistance to the tighter standards from garages doing inspections was anticipated, the state requires that all inspections include video and / or photographic documentation of inspections. And, if one garage says "no" to an inspection, the vehicle is blacklisted on a state database. At least the garage that I go to will pass my truck if I remove the bumper. That's not a huge deal. Just a minor pain-in-the-butt. Most of all, it just seems so stupid. Abe: my setup is exactly like yours for your '54. I've thought about challenging the state regarding this whole thing, but I get a knot in my stomach just thinking about dealing with a bureaucracy that clings to their rules and has no capacity to use logic in their reasoning.
 
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Old May 28, 2019 | 07:39 AM
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Originally Posted by jvmcc
Here in Vermont, I cannot get my truck inspected if the rear bumper is on because it obscures the license plate. The license plate right now hangs from the driver side tail light bracket and is mounted at the stock location. Likewise, my bumper is stock and mounted in the correct location. I was told that bumpers were optional back in 1953. Anyway, if I take the bumper off, it will pass inspection just fine, because no bumper is required on a stock 1953 truck. But, now I've decided to stray from stock and put the license plate on the bumper. But, I will need to have it illuminated. So, I'm looking for a couple of 6-volt license plate lights. I've not found any yet. I was wondering if a small 12 volt LED license plate light will work running on six volts. Even if it's dim, maybe it won't be any dimmer than any of the other 6-volt lighting that's on the truck now.
Vintage farm tractors used a small instrument panel light with a 6volt bulb. They have a shield over the bulb and mount in a round hole Streaker tractor and others sell them. Might be available at TSC.
 
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Old May 28, 2019 | 07:56 AM
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Originally Posted by jvmcc
Here in Vermont, I cannot get my truck inspected if the rear bumper is on because it obscures the license plate. The license plate right now hangs from the driver side tail light bracket and is mounted at the stock location. Likewise, my bumper is stock and mounted in the correct location. I was told that bumpers were optional back in 1953. Anyway, if I take the bumper off, it will pass inspection just fine, because no bumper is required on a stock 1953 truck. But, now I've decided to stray from stock and put the license plate on the bumper. But, I will need to have it illuminated. So, I'm looking for a couple of 6-volt license plate lights. I've not found any yet. I was wondering if a small 12 volt LED license plate light will work running on six volts. Even if it's dim, maybe it won't be any dimmer than any of the other 6-volt lighting that's on the truck now.
Here is a light that might work for you. https://www.steinertractor.com/JDS49...ight-With-Bulb
 
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Old May 28, 2019 | 09:28 AM
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I would take the bumper off get it inspected then put the bumper back on.
 
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Old May 28, 2019 | 09:31 AM
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I would take the bumper off get it inspected then put the bumper back on.

I second that.

So every little garage that does state inspection must video the process and save the images?
 
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Old May 28, 2019 | 03:15 PM
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Vermont still requires annual inspections for antique vehicles? Or is yours registered as a regular truck still?

Here in Texas, my '56 is registered as an antique and has Texas 56 plates on it. No inspection, just registration every 5 years.

Is there an alternative for you in Vermont?
 
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Old May 28, 2019 | 05:13 PM
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Originally Posted by jvmcc
Here in Vermont, I cannot get my truck inspected if the rear bumper is on because it obscures the license plate. The license plate right now hangs from the driver side tail light bracket and is mounted at the stock location. Likewise, my bumper is stock and mounted in the correct location. I was told that bumpers were optional back in 1953. Anyway, if I take the bumper off, it will pass inspection just fine, because no bumper is required on a stock 1953 truck. But, now I've decided to stray from stock and put the license plate on the bumper. But, I will need to have it illuminated. So, I'm looking for a couple of 6-volt license plate lights. I've not found any yet. I was wondering if a small 12 volt LED license plate light will work running on six volts. Even if it's dim, maybe it won't be any dimmer than any of the other 6-volt lighting that's on the truck now.
How does this ordnance apply to vehicles classified as Antique? Many Antique vehicles manufactured before this ordinance didn't have But one Stop light on the divers side, No turn signals and many vehicle makes with obscure License plates. I would file for an exclusion sighting the original provisions provided by the manufacture at the time of Production !
 
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Old May 28, 2019 | 06:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Smitty49
How does this ordnance apply to vehicles classified as Antique? Many Antique vehicles manufactured before this ordinance didn't have But one Stop light on the divers side, No turn signals and many vehicle makes with obscure License plates. I would file for an exclusion sighting the original provisions provided by the manufacture at the time of Production !
Like I said above, "You got a problem with that, talk to the Ford Motor Company."
 
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Old May 28, 2019 | 06:34 PM
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But I know we're are not helping you with a light for your plate.....
 
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Old May 28, 2019 | 06:48 PM
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Here in Wisconsin we are apparently very lax about registering collector vehicles. I should count my blessings! All it took was some paperwork and $$$. No inspection was required. I now have a WI collector plate that never needs to be renewed. There are no annual registration fees either. My plate can stay with the truck as it gets passed down in the family, or I may even be able to transfer it to another vehicle. There may be some towing or load restrictions for collector vehicles, but otherwise running an old truck in WI is surprisingly hassle free.

Jim

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No one asked about a plate light, and I didn't have one until just last week.
 
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