This thread has probably already been posted at one point or another, but check this out. By filing lawsuits and putting people on the chopping block, the music industry is hurting their own cause. Not only are the people they are suing going to stop buying CDs period but anyone who is following these proceedings and sympathizes with the defendants will stop buying or at least reduce it as much as possible. One of the defendants is a 12 year old girl who was sharing children's songs. The music industry is going to find their economic situation not looking good.

What the music industry needs to do is find a way to take advantage of the Internet and the opportunities it provides. What do you think?

 

I agree. I do have a question. What if I give a song to someone over the internet and then erase it off my computer? Is that copyright infringement? How would it differ from handing you my CD? You would have it and I would not.

Paid for once. Then given as a gift.

Just curious.

 

So how did you get this hypothetical song in the first place? Where's the original? Did you buy it?

Mind you I'm not casting stones here as I have been know to download a few songs myself. In light of the recent goings on I have stopped doing it and I no longer share the files so they can't be uploaded by anyone else.

 

I burned them from cd onto my computer and destroyed the CD...

 

How would it differ, you ask? The downloaded song is considered pirated media whereas the CD, unless stolen, is legal to do whatever you bloody well feel like doing with it. Transmit a pirated piece of software which you did not pay for to someone over the wire and you're also in violation of a law or two. Not that I care. I'm not totally clean myself and I do plenty of trading each day, like 700+ files. And that's just a good starter collection compared to most of the people I am in contact with. I will not lay out $17 or $19 for one audio CD with a single good track. If the industry wishes to populate its ranks with one-hit wonders, I will populate my hard drives with the music they produce.

 

If you copied it, then burned it and then gave it to someone over the internet and then destroyed your copy -- assuming you bought the cd in the first place then I'd say ethically, you are in the clear, but legally it would be hard to prove that you actually did such a noble and honest thing. If the cd police come a pounding on your door they are going to say you allowed someone to copy your cd. IMO.

 

Let em fret and froth,, they'll never stop file sharing, it's way too prevalent these days. Without even going into the ICQ realm, there are still a myriad of P2P's out there running. And I concur fully with thoseapples. If they wanna fill the music industry with a bunch of junk, I'll deal with it like a U-Pull-It yard. Sift and sort until I get the good stuff. As far as the money issue, I don't mind a bit if the "music industry" is losing money,, it's the artists that deserve the money. Not the money-hungry execs. Damn Suits!!! So when they start playing fair,,, I'll consider it

 

Why would I have to prove that's what I did? Would not the burdon be on those who would seek to convict me? I'm just curious what they could do? I don't think giving something copyrighted to someone else should be a crime if you don't keep a copy yourself.

 

its like trying to stop anyone from doing anything, they will always find a way around it

 

I can understand the frustration of the music labels and the artists. They sell an intangible product that can be reproduced easilly. Every blackmarket copy that is downloaded is a lost CD sale. The company loses and the artist loses his/her percentage as well. Like it or not, the songs are the property of the label and artist, and they are entitled to get paid. It can't be rationalized because the person thinks the CD is to expensive or there is to much filler on the album. If you're taking it against their will, it's stealing. How is it any different from hooking up your own cable and stealing TV cable? Just looking at the other side of the coin.

 

Interestingly enough...:

The bands that have hated on music sharing over the internet etc; dont seem to be doing as well as they could be with there cd sales.

After metallica started all that hub bub I refuse to buy any of there cds, I burn my cds because I dont like listening ot 30-40mins of music (as alot of cds have) but the full 80mins I can fit on. So what I do is I buy all the bands cds that I like, dont even take them out of the shrink rap and download and burn their songs that I want to listen to. That way I have supported my bands that I like, and NOT even listened to bands I dont like.

Kid Rock went on record to say on mtv when asked: "What do you think of people spreading your music all over the internet via mp3 format?" his reply and I quote "What the hell do I care for? I'm rich."

Now thats a good attitude. On another note there is some stuff I wouldn't of been able to hear had it not been for internet sharing.

Toby Keiths bus songs for example


Anyway I think that electronic laws are disgusting as the whole internet should be labelled red light district, the amount of things that come up when you dont want them to and are influencing younger people that wouldn't of seen this stuff otherwise is disgusting.

The music companies are going about things all the wrong way, they are attacking the wrong people.

They used to attack the people that were spreading it and what not, and thats who they should be going after IF ANYBODY. I'm hearing that Radiohead or rush ended up with sales they didn't imagine due to all this.


Anyway thats my $0.02 though I'm sure I missed something.

 

Kazaa Lite blocks the RIAA, ,PAA, US dept of Justice, every record company I can think of, FBI and a whole slew of other IP's you wouldnt want snooping around to see what you have on your computer. If you have Klite, C:\Program Files\Kazaa Lite\BannedIPs\BannedIpRanges.txt

 

My question is.. how many americans do yall think have ever downloaded a song?

 

How many Americans have done an illegal download? Probably half as many as have fired up a joint, but the prisons are still full of people caught up in the diet, er drug wars. All hail Bush and Ashcroft and Clinton and Reno and all the diet and music police everywhere, down with freedom , up with more government controls.

 

No downloading music here...because I don't have a CD burner, & am using an old P-200 on a 28.8K dialup running at 23K.