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Old Oct 2, 2003 | 08:12 PM
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Checking Alternator

The lights and instrument panel in my 1983 F100 IL6 dim when I am shifting. I measured the voltage on the battery at 12.1 V when the engine is off and 13 V when running.

I disconnected the field wire from the external voltage regulator and took a reading of 1 volt while the engine was running.

Is that the proper way to check the alternator output? What should be the output of the field wire? Do the dimming lights while shifting point to a dying alternator? The temperature gauge goes all the way to the right when the lights are on (even though the engine is not hot) – is this related to the alternator?

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Old Oct 2, 2003 | 09:38 PM
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Check the condition of the alt belt, and the tension. 13v means it is charging some. Take the battery positive cable off, and then take the other end that goes to the starter relay off, and clean all the connections and wire ends.
 
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Old Oct 3, 2003 | 05:45 AM
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Thanks for responding Dave. I looked at the connections and they look clean. I misstated something in my initial post. The black wire running from the alternator is attached to the starter relay on the same side as the red battery wire. Is this correct?
 
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Old Oct 3, 2003 | 01:04 PM
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Yes. And that's the connection I was thinking may have a problem. That is the main connection where the output of the alt feeds the battery, as well as the rest of the truck. Besides the alt wire, you should have some other wires there that have fusible links, which feed all the elec to the rest of the truck. Is your idle speed up to spec? And it is possible that a diode may be blown in the alt, reducing the output a little bit.

Also unplug the regulator plug and then plug it back in. Maybe something is not connected good there.
 

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Old Oct 4, 2003 | 04:16 PM
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Take your measurements also with all the accessories on and the engine running. A battery is a storage device for starting the vehicle. The alternator should power the accessories without any drain to the battery. If the voltage from this test drops below the 12.1 that you started with, the alternator and/or regulator are bad. An alternator usually puts out between 13.5 and 14.5 volts. Although this is a 12V system, the alternator has to charge above that in order for the battery to maintain 12V afterwards. Sounds like the alternator is weak or the regulator is not kicking in soon enough before the battery drains down. Sometimes even a bad battery will show full voltage with no load applied, so you may want to test the voltage at the battery with the engine off, all accessories on.
 
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Old Oct 4, 2003 | 11:44 PM
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Re: Checking Alternator

I disconnected the field wire from the external voltage regulator and took a reading of 1 volt while the engine was running.
The field terminal is the one that the regulator puts power in to make the alternator put power out. There shouldn't be any voltage on the field terminal (of the alternator) with it disconnected.
I measured the voltage on the battery at 12.1 V when the engine is off and 13 V when running.
12.1 volts with the engine off is showing a nearly dead battery or a battery with problems. If the voltage drops even lower than that when it sits for a while, there's a bad cell in the battery. A good battery that's fully charged should read over 12.5 volts (more like 12.7). Charging voltage should be over 13.5 volts.
 
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Old Oct 7, 2003 | 10:39 PM
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also check the cable crimps, that is a unseen problem, where the
cable is either crimped or soldered, corrosion gets on the wires
or they get loose, will cause a loss of current...good luck
 
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