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Old Apr 28, 2019 | 06:31 PM
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Build Sheet for bidding

I've been reading threads in here regarding sending out build sheets to fleet managers or internet sales managers, asking for bids on a custom ordered truck. I may need to go this route as the truck I want is hard to find (well optioned lariat with the 40-20-40 front seat).

Is there a particular format that these build sheets should have? Or is a bullet point list of options and specs good enough? I was thinking about building the truck on the Ford site and printing the window sticker to use as the build sheet. Anybody been through this have advice? I want to make sure I'm presenting the info in an easy to understand format to maximize response from dealers.

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Old Apr 28, 2019 | 06:46 PM
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I just saved the build sheet off Ford.com as a PDF and sent it out to all the dealers in the area. Told them I don’t want to waste their time, I know some are willing to go $1-2k below invoice not including rebates, and if they’re willing to do a deal like that let me know. Once I picked the best deal, I went into the dealership and they put it in their system for me to sign their build sheet after verifying everything was correct.
 
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Old Apr 28, 2019 | 07:12 PM
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I used the printout from Edmunds.com.
 
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Old Apr 28, 2019 | 07:58 PM
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Originally Posted by ur2ez22
I just saved the build sheet off Ford.com as a PDF and sent it out to all the dealers in the area. Told them I don’t want to waste their time, I know some are willing to go $1-2k below invoice not including rebates, and if they’re willing to do a deal like that let me know. Once I picked the best deal, I went into the dealership and they put it in their system for me to sign their build sheet after verifying everything was correct.
That's what I did. I sent my build sheet from Ford.com to a few dealerships and went with my best offer.

I didn't and wouldn't go into a bidding situation where I pitted dealerships against one another. I know some do this and that's fine for them. I just don't like to do that. My deal ended up being about $1,200 below X-Plan/Invoice. Some people do much better.

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Old Apr 28, 2019 | 07:59 PM
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I made an excel spreadsheet and attached it to an e-mail.
 
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Old Apr 29, 2019 | 09:34 AM
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I made an excel spreadsheet and attached it to an e-mail.
That's what I did also. I used the exact order codes from the manual that Ford uses to order. I just looked at it and not sure what's called. But basically its a manual that shows all of the standard and optional equipment for Super Duty and their respective order codes.

My spreadsheet was basically 2 columns ....... the 1) order code and 2) the order code description.
 
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Old Apr 29, 2019 | 10:20 AM
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Use the NADA website. Options and pricing align almost perfectly with Ford. This is the one that I sent out and I ordered this exact truck. The retail price was dead on and the invoice price was off by $149 and I think that was due to a pricing change that Ford made just before I placed my order.

 
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Curious ... what did your payload sticker end up being on that F250 Platinum Ultimate 6.7?
 
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Curious ... what did your payload sticker end up being on that F250 Platinum Ultimate 6.7?
I may have set the record for lowest Super Duty payload sticker ever:



I would never recommend ordering a F250 in my configuration. I had extenuating circumstances that precluded me from purchasing a Class 3 truck so I custom ordered the most capable F250 that can be had at the expense of the payload sticker. I am literally one leaf spring shy of a SRW F350 but all that added weight and a GVWR of 10,000 lbs. results in a very sad payload sticker affixed to a very impressive truck.
 
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Old Apr 29, 2019 | 11:33 AM
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Originally Posted by KappaKerma
I've been reading threads in here regarding sending out build sheets to fleet managers or internet sales managers, asking for bids on a custom ordered truck. I may need to go this route as the truck I want is hard to find (well optioned lariat with the 40-20-40 front seat).

Is there a particular format that these build sheets should have? Or is a bullet point list of options and specs good enough? I was thinking about building the truck on the Ford site and printing the window sticker to use as the build sheet. Anybody been through this have advice? I want to make sure I'm presenting the info in an easy to understand format to maximize response from dealers.

Thanks.
I just did my build on Ford's website, and brought it in to the dealers for quotes. I was also doing a trade-in, so trade-in manipulation was part of my pricing strategy. I didn't care what the MSRP was they came back with, I cared about the bottom line of how much after trade. That's why I brought it into the dealers instead of just mailing it around.

I'm curious about the desire for the split bench instead of the console. I also did a build with the bench, because I've occasionally used that 6th seat in my RAM and still wanted that flexibility in my Ford. But after ordering, I learned that by going with the console, I was acutally losing a lot more than just a console. Getting the console is also required for:
  • Rear seat heaters
  • Pass-through A/C
And probably some other things, but those are the two that bit me. Just something to consider before you lock into that bench. If you've got a family of six and absolutely need that seat, by all means, but if it's just for occasional use, then make sure you know everything you're actually losing.
 
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Old Apr 29, 2019 | 12:01 PM
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Make sure your dealers quote include any additional fees they charge like doc fees, delivery charges, and other BS some dealers tack onto everything they sell. This even includes estimates for license plates and title fees.
 
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Old Apr 29, 2019 | 12:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Kaadk
I just did my build on Ford's website, and brought it in to the dealers for quotes. I was also doing a trade-in, so trade-in manipulation was part of my pricing strategy. I didn't care what the MSRP was they came back with, I cared about the bottom line of how much after trade. That's why I brought it into the dealers instead of just mailing it around.

I'm curious about the desire for the split bench instead of the console. I also did a build with the bench, because I've occasionally used that 6th seat in my RAM and still wanted that flexibility in my Ford. But after ordering, I learned that by going with the console, I was acutally losing a lot more than just a console. Getting the console is also required for:
  • Rear seat heaters
  • Pass-through A/C
And probably some other things, but those are the two that bit me. Just something to consider before you lock into that bench. If you've got a family of six and absolutely need that seat, by all means, but if it's just for occasional use, then make sure you know everything you're actually losing.
Yep, family of 6, big plans for a travel trailer this fall once I get the truck.
 
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Old Apr 29, 2019 | 12:56 PM
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Originally Posted by JD'sBigredv10
I may have set the record for lowest Super Duty payload sticker ever:



I would never recommend ordering a F250 in my configuration. I had extenuating circumstances that precluded me from purchasing a Class 3 truck so I custom ordered the most capable F250 that can be had at the expense of the payload sticker. I am literally one leaf spring shy of a SRW F350 but all that added weight and a GVWR of 10,000 lbs. results in a very sad payload sticker affixed to a very impressive truck.
That is quite low. I'm shooting for 2100-2250 lbs range. I've noticed that having both the high capacity trailer tow package and fifth wheel prep decreases payload about 200 lbs.
 
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Old Apr 29, 2019 | 01:04 PM
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Originally Posted by JD'sBigredv10
[..] I am literally one leaf spring shy of a SRW F350 but all that added weight and a GVWR of 10,000 lbs. results in a very sad payload sticker affixed to a very impressive truck.
Agreed. I was just curious and appreciate your candor. Have fun camping this year! April and May are so frustrating in CO. I want to go camping ... we're supposed to get a big snow storm today. Ugh. [/end hijack]
 
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Old Apr 29, 2019 | 01:11 PM
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That is quite low. I'm shooting for 2100-2250 lbs range. I've noticed that having both the high capacity trailer tow package and fifth wheel prep decreases payload about 200 lbs.
Payload is just bonehead math; GVWR - weight of the truck = payload. The GVWR is assigned to the truck (10,000 for F250, 11,500 for SRW F350) and it cannot go up. In effect, every thing you add to the vehicle (6.7, long bed, 4X4, Dana axle, 3" hitch, fifth wheel prep, overloads, etc.) to increase it's actual capability (or comfort) has the inevitable result of decreasing the number on the payload sticker.

With an F250, you can get to your payload goal with a modestly equipped 6.7 or any configuration with a 6.2.
 
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