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Old Apr 17, 2019 | 04:15 PM
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4wd help

I have a 2000 excursion v-10 and have tried everything I know how to do, so I’m hoping there is an expert out there that can shed some light(whether good or bad) on my current dilemma! I cannot get the 4wd to activate or engage. I have replaced, 4wd actuator, vacuum pump, trans case motor, every single relay in the truck, the gem module (which ford dealer said wouldnt program and am still wondering if the original was bad in the first place). I also cannot get my cruise control to work nor the info readout in head panel ( don’t know if all this is related but throwing everything I know out there). When I replaced T/C motor once I hooked up wiring harness it clicked like it wanted to engage but that was it. Thanks for any and all info and suggestions
 
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Old Apr 17, 2019 | 06:30 PM
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You didn't mention what kind of hubs you had and if you were getting vacuum to the hubs-assuming stock hubs.
 
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Old Apr 17, 2019 | 08:02 PM
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Overhead console is a common problem and the fix is simple solder job.
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/4...ml#post3266008


the Cruise, has yours had the recall done ? Have you checked the fuses under the hood that are part of the recall replacement harness ?

4x4, vastly more complex, are you handy with a multimeter ? If so I can post pics of the factory service manual trouble shooting steps
 
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Old Apr 17, 2019 | 10:37 PM
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I just bought this about 8 months ago. So I highly doubt the cruise recall has been done but As far as the fuses and relays I changed but not sure about the harness. I will have to research that. Forgot to mention They have aftermarket rims and original vacuum lines were terminated and put on a funky bypass system but reattached original vacuum lines and got good vacuum but still no avail. I am no master with electrical by any means but can find my way around schematics and a multimeter half way decent
 
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Old Apr 17, 2019 | 11:19 PM
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The cruise control recall harness is attached to your master cylinder and the fuses are part of the harness.

Are you saying that the vacuum hubs are locking when you select 4wd but the transfer case is not engaging ?

i will post the trouble shoot steps in the morning.

pics of the vacuum bypass may help us understand the issue.
 
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Old Apr 18, 2019 | 05:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Csmith4177
I have a 2000 excursion v-10 and have tried everything I know how to do, so I’m hoping there is an expert out there that can shed some light(whether good or bad) on my current dilemma! I cannot get the 4wd to activate or engage. I have replaced, 4wd actuator, vacuum pump, trans case motor, every single relay in the truck, the gem module (which ford dealer said wouldnt program and am still wondering if the original was bad in the first place). I also cannot get my cruise control to work nor the info readout in head panel ( don’t know if all this is related but throwing everything I know out there). When I replaced T/C motor once I hooked up wiring harness it clicked like it wanted to engage but that was it. Thanks for any and all info and suggestions
The vacuum pump on the V-10 is the V-10, there is no vacuum pump to replace.

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I just bought this about 8 months ago. So I highly doubt the cruise recall has been done but As far as the fuses and relays I changed but not sure about the harness. I will have to research that. Forgot to mention They have aftermarket rims and original vacuum lines were terminated and put on a funky bypass system but reattached original vacuum lines and got good vacuum but still no avail. I am no master with electrical by any means but can find my way around schematics and a multimeter half way decent
Do you mean aftermarket "rims" or "hubs"? It matters here for troubleshooting, rims don't affect the situation, hubs do. I too would be interested in seeing the "funky bypass system".
 
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Old Apr 18, 2019 | 07:26 AM
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Welcome to the FTE. We all love Excursion pictures Post up pics of things that you are describing and that will help a lot, IMO.
 
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Old Apr 18, 2019 | 01:24 PM
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I hope some people write in here because I have the same issue with a friends 2000 Excursion with 7.3 diesel in it. I haven't replaced all the components yet though. I seem to have no command coming from GEM module to 4wd relays.

Csmith, Do you the relays click when you turn the switch? Have you tried driving at 5mph and turning the switch? Do your 4X4 and Low Range lights prove out when you start the truck? Do you have access to a scan tool?
 
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Old Apr 18, 2019 | 06:13 PM
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I’m in no way a mechanic, but my BIL’s uncle is and he found the inability to engage 4WD was a wiring issue under the dash. Been working perfectly since he worked on it.
 
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Old Apr 18, 2019 | 07:09 PM
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Originally Posted by gwh1bass
I’m in no way a mechanic, but my BIL’s uncle is and he found the inability to engage 4WD was a wiring issue under the dash. Been working perfectly since he worked on it.
i apologize for the vacuum statement as as I had a 6.0 for years that had a similar problems and it traced back to that and and a single wire in the trans module In glove box. I also have a new born and 2 girls and all the time i try to reply involve screaming kids so that’s the second apology. It’s an electrical bypass on the hubs but can’t see where it leads to because I put everything back but will show picture. Nothing happens when I switch to low or high and tried the 5 mph switch and nothing. So I believe it’s electrical but that’s my Achilles heel. I’m attaching some pics but Just left outta town

4wd lights up after I changed out actuator. But still nothing happens when it’s engaged.

Wiring to hub same on both sides so whoever wired it it was done sloppy

Wheels sorry no close up as this is the only pic I have

New T/C motor
till Sunday night so won’t be able to try anything till then.
 
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Hubs are original and yes I believe I still do have access to a scan tool.
 
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Old Apr 18, 2019 | 07:15 PM
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Also when you switch or engage 4wd nothing clicks on the Trans Case, the only time it clicked is when I installed the new motor.
 
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That custom wiring is for the ABS sensors, its crap but has nothing to do with your 4X4 issue.
 
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Does the 4x4 light on the dash come on?
 
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Old Apr 18, 2019 | 09:46 PM
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Well that is good to know on the ABS! The 4wd light comes on now that I replaced switch. But when you turn switch to low or high no click on motor
 
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