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Old Feb 28, 2019 | 09:52 PM
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Front Suspension shakes

my truck is completely stock. When I load a overhead camper, the front end shakes only when applying the brakes.

When i unload the camper no shaking during braking.

Slight clunk when I turn steering wheel back and forth at a stop.

Any my ideas of what wrong.
 
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Old Feb 28, 2019 | 10:01 PM
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Can you provide a little detail about your truck? Some info about the camper might be helpful too.
 
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Old Feb 28, 2019 | 10:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Sport45
Can you provide a little detail about your truck? Some info about the camper might be helpful too.
2017 F450 stock. 70k miles.
camper is 2018 (Lance 1172) dry weight 4072 lbs
 
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Old Feb 28, 2019 | 10:35 PM
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Does the steering wheel shake?
 
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Old Feb 28, 2019 | 10:49 PM
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Originally Posted by 350LTD
Does the steering wheel shake?
you know, it felt like a wheel had loose lug nuts. So the whole front end shakes, along with steering wheel. Sorta feels like really bad warped rotors, or loose wheel.

But goes away when remove camper.
 
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Old Mar 1, 2019 | 12:20 AM
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Spitballing here: Maybe out of round tires and/or wheels?

I'd take it to a tire shop with a road force balancer and see what they find.
 
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Old Mar 1, 2019 | 05:33 PM
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Rod-end and/or ball joint going bad would be my first guess.
 
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Old Mar 1, 2019 | 11:17 PM
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Does the oscillation stop as soon as you take your foot off of the brakes or do you have to slow down in order for the shake to subside?
 
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Old Mar 1, 2019 | 11:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Imadentguy
Does the oscillation stop as soon as you take your foot off of the brakes or do you have to slow down in order for the shake to subside?
stops as soon as I take foot off brake.
 
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Old Mar 1, 2019 | 11:42 PM
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odd it only does it with the camper in the back. Do you have any odd or irregular tire wear? Are you still under warranty? 4x4 or 2 wd?
 
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Old Mar 1, 2019 | 11:51 PM
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Just saw your mileage so it looks like your on your own. Climb under the truck with the engine off, and get your ol’ lady to rock the steering wheel back and forth at a steady pace. Put your hands on every steering and suspension joint. Look and feel for play or popping in the joints. Jack the front end of the truck and use a pry bar (or any sort of leverage tool) under the front tires. Get a buddy to pry up and down while you look closely at your ball joints for any up and down play. While the front end is jacked up grab the front wheels and wiggle them back and forth at both 12 and 6 oclock, and then at 3 and 9. It should feel tight as you wiggle the wheels. No popping or chatter.
 
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Old Mar 2, 2019 | 07:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Imadentguy
odd it only does it with the camper in the back. Do you have any odd or irregular tire wear? Are you still under warranty? 4x4 or 2 wd?
front tires have patches of dark spots. Also seems like they wear uneven on the out side edge more than the rest of the tire.

its 4x4
 
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Old Mar 2, 2019 | 07:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Imadentguy
Just saw your mileage so it looks like your on your own. Climb under the truck with the engine off, and get your ol’ lady to rock the steering wheel back and forth at a steady pace. Put your hands on every steering and suspension joint. Look and feel for play or popping in the joints. Jack the front end of the truck and use a pry bar (or any sort of leverage tool) under the front tires. Get a buddy to pry up and down while you look closely at your ball joints for any up and down play. While the front end is jacked up grab the front wheels and wiggle them back and forth at both 12 and 6 oclock, and then at 3 and 9. It should feel tight as you wiggle the wheels. No popping or chatter.
I lifted the front and got under it. Everything seems nice and tight. The stabilizer swooshes like it has pressure. The tires do not knock when I wiggle at the 3&9 or 12&6 positions.

I did not try up and down with a pry bar under the tires. I’ll try that next.

The popping seems to come from the steering gear. Is there a way to adjust it?
 
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When you say the knocking is coming from the steering box, what did you do to initiate the knock? Are you hearing the knock at the pitman arm coming out of the steering box? Yes there is an adjustment on the box itself, but you have to be very careful when you adjust it. If you over tighten you can bind the gears in the box which can create a whole other slew of issues. Fords procedure for lash measurment involves pulling the steering box and measuring resistance with a beam style torque wrench that measures in inch lbs. Some guys adjust the tensioner a little at a time with the box still mounted in the truck, cutting the wheel back and forth with the front tires off of the ground, while feeling for binding in the steering wheel. However, that is not the best way to do it. Dont start tightening the adjuster just yet. Lets focus on where the knock is coming from in relation to the steering box. When driving without the load on the back, are you feeling any kind of rattle or metallic feedback through the steering wheel when hitting irregularities in the road?
 
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Old Mar 2, 2019 | 10:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Imadentguy
When you say the knocking is coming from the steering box, what did you do to initiate the knock? Are you hearing the knock at the pitman arm coming out of the steering box? Yes there is an adjustment on the box itself, but you have to be very careful when you adjust it. If you over tighten you can bind the gears in the box which can create a whole other slew of issues. Fords procedure for lash measurment involves pulling the steering box and measuring resistance with a beam style torque wrench that measures in inch lbs. Some guys adjust the tensioner a little at a time with the box still mounted in the truck, cutting the wheel back and forth with the front tires off of the ground, while feeling for binding in the steering wheel. However, that is not the best way to do it. Dont start tightening the adjuster just yet. Lets focus on where the knock is coming from in relation to the steering box. When driving without the load on the back, are you feeling any kind of rattle or metallic feedback through the steering wheel when hitting irregularities in the road?
i initiated the **** by turning the steering wheel back and forth vigorously. From the steering linkage on averyrhing seems solid. There is play on the steering wheel when tires are on the ground.
 
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