Three studs broken off
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Three studs broken off
2012 F350 6.7L 4WD
OK I was out in Wyoming and we had a blowout, got the spare on and we drove up to Pinedale to look for a replacement tire. There were three tire dealers and basically none had 18 inch truck tires which I thought more than strange since Wyoming is well populated with pickups. However one guy finally found one tire at the bottom of a pile and sold it to us. Not the trouble begain since he grossly over torqued the studs causing three to sheer off months later. I got the other three tires replaced back in Florida.
So I got the hub off, drove the broken studs out got replacements at NAPA ($81 with nuts!!!) and found I could not get the new stud in without dissembling a lot more of that 4WD hub than I felt comfortable doing. Took it to a local truck tire dealer to get him to replace the studs. And he refused saying the ring that the studs are in has to be replaced along with the wheel itself. And he didn't have the parts and didn't want to do it anyway. He claimed that ring has to be replaced with the studs already installed.
If that's the case why would they sell studs. So is he feeding me BS because he didn't want to do it? I'm sure the Ford dealer will cost a fortune to do the job.
What's the real story and how hard is it to get to that ring? Thanks a bunch.
OK I was out in Wyoming and we had a blowout, got the spare on and we drove up to Pinedale to look for a replacement tire. There were three tire dealers and basically none had 18 inch truck tires which I thought more than strange since Wyoming is well populated with pickups. However one guy finally found one tire at the bottom of a pile and sold it to us. Not the trouble begain since he grossly over torqued the studs causing three to sheer off months later. I got the other three tires replaced back in Florida.
So I got the hub off, drove the broken studs out got replacements at NAPA ($81 with nuts!!!) and found I could not get the new stud in without dissembling a lot more of that 4WD hub than I felt comfortable doing. Took it to a local truck tire dealer to get him to replace the studs. And he refused saying the ring that the studs are in has to be replaced along with the wheel itself. And he didn't have the parts and didn't want to do it anyway. He claimed that ring has to be replaced with the studs already installed.
If that's the case why would they sell studs. So is he feeding me BS because he didn't want to do it? I'm sure the Ford dealer will cost a fortune to do the job.
What's the real story and how hard is it to get to that ring? Thanks a bunch.
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Are you replacing all the studs? It would seem that if those three were over torqued then the rest are headaches waiting to happen. I believe that the hub assembly comes with the bearings and all. If 3 studs and nuts cost $81.00 then I would just replace the whole hub/bearing assembly. I haven't priced parts like yours but $81.00 seems a little steep for 3 studs and nuts. JMO
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non Ford wheel studs ( replacement ).. = $ 5.00 each.. nuts $ 2.50 each...
non Ford complete Hub..( replacement ) . studs install with anti-lock brake sensor.. $ 290.00...
most auto part stores..
you are dealing with a service department policy... not law or Ford issue
3 broken studs... for over tightening... replace hub.. possible warped.. and that will affect brake and tire..
non Ford complete Hub..( replacement ) . studs install with anti-lock brake sensor.. $ 290.00...
most auto part stores..
you are dealing with a service department policy... not law or Ford issue
3 broken studs... for over tightening... replace hub.. possible warped.. and that will affect brake and tire..
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Are you replacing all the studs? It would seem that if those three were over torqued then the rest are headaches waiting to happen. I believe that the hub assembly comes with the bearings and all. If 3 studs and nuts cost $81.00 then I would just replace the whole hub/bearing assembly. I haven't priced parts like yours but $81.00 seems a little steep for 3 studs and nuts. JMO
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I would be worried about as Chuck mentioned; warping - the primary reason for the torque specification and tightening pattern is to prevent warping. Tightening pattern used to be to make sure the lugnuts were properly seated, not so much anymore, it's more about warping the rotor / hub. Do you feel a vibration in the steering wheel when applying the brakes?
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OK how hard is it to replace that ring, or should I get a local shop to do it. I've heard that the 4WD hub can be a problem if it is not reassembled correctly. I'll get that replaced as you guys recommend one way or the other.
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It can be a difficult job if you don't have the proper tools. Removing the locking hubs can be a issue and then you will need the socket to remove axle nuts. Remove the disk brake caliper and bracket to get the rotor off. Once you have locking hub off and axle nuts off you will be ready to remove complete hub assembly. There are three bolts on the backside of the backing plate. You will have to remove them to get the hub out. In the past I have had to use a porta power to push them out. It's not a difficult job with the right tools and equipment but may for a backyard mechanic with limited resources. JMO
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I went by a local shop today, they say $800 for the hub and total cost will be $950 so not too much on labor to replace the whole hub. I'm going to check parts stores to see what they actually charge for a hub.
Rockauto was $360 for an SKF hub, Autozone runs from $280 to $550 so this guy is screwing me. I'll look elsewhere maybe even check with the dealer.
Rockauto was $360 for an SKF hub, Autozone runs from $280 to $550 so this guy is screwing me. I'll look elsewhere maybe even check with the dealer.
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I had it off, at least the rotor off to where I could drive out the stubs of the three broken studs. Then when I found you could not put new studs in without further disassembly I put the wheel back on. With 5 of 8 studs torqued down it seems safe to drive locally. I check the nuts frequently while I'm trying to find a solution. I finally found a Haynes manual for this truck and am waiting for that before proceeding.
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Just curious, are you going back to the knuckleheads that did all of this damage with a bill or a bad review or something?