#1 #8 injectors failed buzz test. 7.3 no start
#17
There is a good bit of oil around the engine. Mainly around the rear of the drivers valve cover and in the front center. It looks like it has been there for a good while as it is pretty caked on. I'll pull off the turbo piping and check the valve cover for any leaks and the turbo. As for the front I could only imagine the hpop reservoir leaked out at one point. I will post what my finding are if there are any
#18
If you're using Torque Pro, have you installed the Ford PID / Sensor list? You don't have to be connected to the truck to do this: within Torque Pro, select: Settings > Manage extra PIDs/Sensors > (three vertical dots at top right) > Add predefined set > Ford (Incl PowerStroke). Many users here use other self-defined sets, but these work well.
From there, once you set up your screen, select PIDs that are prefaced with [FORD] for best results. Common ones for hard / no start issues are Battery; Revs; Fuel Injector Pulse Width (FIPW); Injection Control Pressure (ICP); ICP DC; Engine Oil Temp (EOT); Exhaust Back Pressure (EBP); Manifold Air Pressure (MAP). Of those, If the PCM doesn't see >400 psi ICP and ~10Vdc it won't tell the IDM to fire the injectors, so nothing will happen. It's sounds like you're getting something, ans as Mark said it will run on six cylinders. I know for a fact these things will run on only one bank and haul a bed full of gravel (8' bed, well over a ton w/ the axles riding on the bump stops in the hill in upstate NY). Low / no boost isn't an issue for starting, but low / old / cold / crappy oil can be. Nebraska, so it's cold there. If you watch the battery voltage when you first turn on the key - not cranking - working glow plugs will drop your battery voltage to at least 11Vdc or so, but after 2 minutes as mentioned, you should hear a click as the GP solenoid opens and the batt voltage should climb back to 12.4-12.6Vdc or so. A good block heater can keep you EOT 20-30° above ambient, so that helps too.
From there, once you set up your screen, select PIDs that are prefaced with [FORD] for best results. Common ones for hard / no start issues are Battery; Revs; Fuel Injector Pulse Width (FIPW); Injection Control Pressure (ICP); ICP DC; Engine Oil Temp (EOT); Exhaust Back Pressure (EBP); Manifold Air Pressure (MAP). Of those, If the PCM doesn't see >400 psi ICP and ~10Vdc it won't tell the IDM to fire the injectors, so nothing will happen. It's sounds like you're getting something, ans as Mark said it will run on six cylinders. I know for a fact these things will run on only one bank and haul a bed full of gravel (8' bed, well over a ton w/ the axles riding on the bump stops in the hill in upstate NY). Low / no boost isn't an issue for starting, but low / old / cold / crappy oil can be. Nebraska, so it's cold there. If you watch the battery voltage when you first turn on the key - not cranking - working glow plugs will drop your battery voltage to at least 11Vdc or so, but after 2 minutes as mentioned, you should hear a click as the GP solenoid opens and the batt voltage should climb back to 12.4-12.6Vdc or so. A good block heater can keep you EOT 20-30° above ambient, so that helps too.
#19
If you're using Torque Pro, have you installed the Ford PID / Sensor list? You don't have to be connected to the truck to do this: within Torque Pro, select: Settings > Manage extra PIDs/Sensors > (three vertical dots at top right) > Add predefined set > Ford (Incl PowerStroke). Many users here use other self-defined sets, but these work well.
From there, once you set up your screen, select PIDs that are prefaced with [FORD] for best results. Common ones for hard / no start issues are Battery; Revs; Fuel Injector Pulse Width (FIPW); Injection Control Pressure (ICP); ICP DC; Engine Oil Temp (EOT); Exhaust Back Pressure (EBP); Manifold Air Pressure (MAP). Of those, If the PCM doesn't see >400 psi ICP and ~10Vdc it won't tell the IDM to fire the injectors, so nothing will happen. It's sounds like you're getting something, ans as Mark said it will run on six cylinders. I know for a fact these things will run on only one bank and haul a bed full of gravel (8' bed, well over a ton w/ the axles riding on the bump stops in the hill in upstate NY). Low / no boost isn't an issue for starting, but low / old / cold / crappy oil can be. Nebraska, so it's cold there. If you watch the battery voltage when you first turn on the key - not cranking - working glow plugs will drop your battery voltage to at least 11Vdc or so, but after 2 minutes as mentioned, you should hear a click as the GP solenoid opens and the batt voltage should climb back to 12.4-12.6Vdc or so. A good block heater can keep you EOT 20-30° above ambient, so that helps too.
From there, once you set up your screen, select PIDs that are prefaced with [FORD] for best results. Common ones for hard / no start issues are Battery; Revs; Fuel Injector Pulse Width (FIPW); Injection Control Pressure (ICP); ICP DC; Engine Oil Temp (EOT); Exhaust Back Pressure (EBP); Manifold Air Pressure (MAP). Of those, If the PCM doesn't see >400 psi ICP and ~10Vdc it won't tell the IDM to fire the injectors, so nothing will happen. It's sounds like you're getting something, ans as Mark said it will run on six cylinders. I know for a fact these things will run on only one bank and haul a bed full of gravel (8' bed, well over a ton w/ the axles riding on the bump stops in the hill in upstate NY). Low / no boost isn't an issue for starting, but low / old / cold / crappy oil can be. Nebraska, so it's cold there. If you watch the battery voltage when you first turn on the key - not cranking - working glow plugs will drop your battery voltage to at least 11Vdc or so, but after 2 minutes as mentioned, you should hear a click as the GP solenoid opens and the batt voltage should climb back to 12.4-12.6Vdc or so. A good block heater can keep you EOT 20-30° above ambient, so that helps too.
there are the logs. I noticed while taking off the turbo piping and intake that there was some oil in both the intercooler piping and the intake. There was probably double the oil in the intake. That might be common for an 18 year old stock turbo but I thought I would throw that out there
I also noticed a sort of clicking sound coming from what sounded like inside of the dash behind the drivers vent. I took a video of it but do not know how to get the video on here
#21
While draining the fuel bowl(couldnt find the hose so just drained into a pan) I noticed the connector going into the fuel bowl on the back side had some bare wire. I pulled on it and it came out of the connector a good eighth inch. What I does this plug control and could it cause problems?
#23
Okay, most likely final update for the night. Drained the fuel bowl completely just to get rid of any bad fuel if there was any. Turned the key over and got under the truck. The fuel pump ran for a few seconds then stopped. But, as it was running it sounded like there was about half air and half fuel being sucked in. But since my fuel bowl was completely full and it was still not starting I'm not too sure if that is the issue. I read that powerstrokes have an electric fuel pump that is attached to the gas pedal? Is that true and could that be causing issues? I read up on this because if I floored it while cranking it would sputter but never completely start. Valve covers will be off tomorrow and injector wiring will get a thorough clean and observation
#25
Okay so after reading around I think I have an idea of where to start tomorrow. The idm supposedly needs 10.5v to turn on the injectors. As documented in my previous reply when it is cranking it only gets up to 10v. Now I know it's a long shot but would that small .5v be enough to not get the current flowing to the injectors?
#27
got one on the charger now on slow and I'll put the other one on on fast tomorrow when I wake up. I also have 2 really powerful blue point jump starters that are supposed to be able to start diesels no problem. If my voltage does not get better I will connect those jumpers and see If pushing more amps will help at all
#29
I assumed they were because I had heard a ticking noise from the relay location. And from what I've heard that means it is functioning. BUT when draining the fuel I did notice that one of the main terminals was corroded like crazy. I did not do anything to it but a good clean could only help. As for checking each glowplug I have not had the valve covers off yet to get in and check