03 excursion xlt 5.4 starting issue
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03 excursion xlt 5.4 starting issue
Hello I have a 2003 Ford Excursion 5.4 2wd . it has been sitting for about 5 years just sat on concrete with no issues when it got parked . I want to have it running because its AWESOME! at first it would turn over but no start . I checked the fuel pressure no pressure . Bad Fuel Pump. I replaced it and now it has fuel in the lines but still no start. I also replaced the crank sensor on it . Some new symptoms have popped up as well . The starter relay will click for about 2 minutes then stop and the throttle body seems to be clicking as well .
Any help is appreciated!
Thank You!
Any help is appreciated!
Thank You!
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Sounds like a dead battery and bad fuel.
Did you dump out the old fuel out of the tank when you changed the fuel pump?
If not, you need to do that and purge the old fuel out of the fuel rail and probably clean the injectors.
"Clicking starter relay" sounds like a dead battery, or engine is locked up and not turning over.
Did you dump out the old fuel out of the tank when you changed the fuel pump?
If not, you need to do that and purge the old fuel out of the fuel rail and probably clean the injectors.
"Clicking starter relay" sounds like a dead battery, or engine is locked up and not turning over.
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Could be the starter is locked up with corrosion from sitting, can run a jumper cable down and tap the hot and see if it spins, or pull it out for a similar bench test. It is a lot easier to see if it wants to turn on the bench when you bypass the relay. Actually overall it is a lot easier to bench test it instead since ford put the relays on the starters like everyone else.
I have had my F250 for around 20 years now, I have let it sit for 2-5 years at a time, and after the 5 year sit I had to pull the starter and tear it down and clean it up.
I just drove it (the F250) for the first time in almost a year, and it was pretty creaky as the rusted/unused joints/brakes all had to get into the swing of being in motion again. I try to start stuff and give them all at least a few miles once a month, but sometimes life gets in the way.
I have had my F250 for around 20 years now, I have let it sit for 2-5 years at a time, and after the 5 year sit I had to pull the starter and tear it down and clean it up.
I just drove it (the F250) for the first time in almost a year, and it was pretty creaky as the rusted/unused joints/brakes all had to get into the swing of being in motion again. I try to start stuff and give them all at least a few miles once a month, but sometimes life gets in the way.
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yes I did clean out the old fuel from the gas tank and the fuel lines. There sure was a good amount of rust? in there . with about 3 gallons of brown looking gasoline. the battery is fully charged and holding. I was thinking maybe no spark?
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Try to roll over the engine using the crank pulley bolt. You might also want to pull off the serpentine belt and try to roll it over without it to see if there is a locked up pulley.
I would for sure make certain that the engine spins freely before I did any more parts swapping.
I would for sure make certain that the engine spins freely before I did any more parts swapping.
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the engine turns over freely I keep hearing the starter relay clicking and the throttle body keeps clicking as well. the check engine light stays on but when I connect either of my scanners they keep saying no data link.
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Situation update
Went and inspected all the fuses and relays ebything looks good . Charged up the battery and hit it with some starting flluis which injust went and got and it sounded like it was going to start then it went back to just cranking. Once the battery loses some juice the starter relay and the throttle body start clicking
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The discoloring is normal when gas sits past its usable date, I found a can that got tucked away in the barn that had to be 10 years old. Looked and smelled like varnish, and would not ignite even with a torch to it.
Sounds like the battery is on the way out, have it tested. Also if the gas was 5 years old sitting in the lines I am going to guess the injectors are gummed up. The fuel lines would be a little gunked up, but that is easier to clean/fix with additives added during regular fill ups once it ia running again.
Pull those injectors and give them a good long soak, and get the battery load tested. That would be my next steps going by the info provided.
Sounds like the battery is on the way out, have it tested. Also if the gas was 5 years old sitting in the lines I am going to guess the injectors are gummed up. The fuel lines would be a little gunked up, but that is easier to clean/fix with additives added during regular fill ups once it ia running again.
Pull those injectors and give them a good long soak, and get the battery load tested. That would be my next steps going by the info provided.
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Is the starter motor turning on command or not?
That is a pretty simple wiring circuit.
There is no PATS starter disable on that vehicle so if the starter motor doesn't turn it is a wiring fault, dead battery, bad starter relay, bad starter motor, etc. or an aftermarket alarm. Rodents can do a lot of wire chewing in 5 years.
If it is a PATS issue, there will be a BCM code set. Scan it with Forscan to read the codes.
That is a pretty simple wiring circuit.
There is no PATS starter disable on that vehicle so if the starter motor doesn't turn it is a wiring fault, dead battery, bad starter relay, bad starter motor, etc. or an aftermarket alarm. Rodents can do a lot of wire chewing in 5 years.
If it is a PATS issue, there will be a BCM code set. Scan it with Forscan to read the codes.
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If motor spins but will not start I suggest starting fluid.
If starting fluid starts engine and dies when starting fluid is stopped, replace fuel filter and try again without starting fluid.
If it still does not start test fuel pressure during cranking.
If starting fluid starts engine and dies when starting fluid is stopped, replace fuel filter and try again without starting fluid.
If it still does not start test fuel pressure during cranking.