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Old Jan 9, 2019 | 10:30 AM
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REDICULOUS WEIGHT QUESTION

I am considering a couple of options for a body swap on my 91 F350 CCLB 7.3 4x4 SRW (now converted to dually) I pass over the truck scales 7,000-7,200 depending on fuel. Minus the fuel my fat butt and my 140lb dog I'm guessing the truck dry is 6,600-6,700lbs. My question is how much of that is the body. Two of my body swap options are much heavier and I know my GVW limit so knowing the frame and running gear weight would be nice. Any opinions will be appreciated, any facts will be worshiped.
 
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Old Jan 9, 2019 | 10:35 AM
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I can't see the body weight itself being that big of change between another body(crewcab vs. crewcab). What are you looking at putting on it?
 
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Old Jan 9, 2019 | 10:41 AM
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No idea of cab weight.

A 6.5 ft box is 280 lbs, tailgate 70 lbs. 8 ft box would weigh a bit more, maybe 350lbs.
 
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Old Jan 9, 2019 | 10:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Freightrain
I can't see the body weight itself being that big of change between another body(crewcab vs. crewcab). What are you looking at putting on it?
Options are (These will anger some folks)

1. 1938 model 85 with a 1/4 thick steel dump bed

2. 1946 Fire Truck

3. A shortened 1970's greyhound passenger bus

LMAO Obviously I'm looking to have some fun. I think any of these on 4X4 Dually w/ 7.3 IDI would be fun.
 
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Old Jan 9, 2019 | 10:49 AM
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Originally Posted by GoinBoarding
No idea of cab weight.

A 6.5 ft box is 280 lbs, tailgate 70 lbs. 8 ft box would weigh a bit more, maybe 350lbs.
Thanks, that's a good start.
 
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Old Jan 9, 2019 | 10:59 AM
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Just so nobody considers this blasphemy, I love this body style but I started poking at the cab and looking deeper and it's got some serious cancer in some bad places on the cab. So I started thinking body swap but I'm not a "normal" guy so this is where it led me. Besides the obvious problems I knew about there are a lot of previously covered up problems, but the frame is good and straight and the running gear are almost all new now. So it's time to play.
 
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Old Jan 9, 2019 | 12:11 PM
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Don't see any problem with your thoughts. I think the bus might be a bit of an issue getting it small enough to fit in any dimension? Those old 40-50's short school buses are cool all done up.

I hate the rims, but I like the bus:
 
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Old Jan 9, 2019 | 12:16 PM
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Sight unseen, I'd pick option #1.
Mostly,I'd go with most useful, easiest swap.
 
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Originally Posted by Freightrain
Don't see any problem with your thoughts. I think the bus might be a bit of an issue getting it small enough to fit in any dimension? Those old 40-50's short school buses are cool all done up.

I hate the rims, but I like the bus:
I think that short bus has zoomies now. I even considered cutting the back two-thirds of the bus to fit on my fifth wheel trailer and cutting the front third the shape of a cabover pickup truck. Taking advantage of the obvious overlap between the upper deck of the fifth wheel trailer and the pickup bed. Basically it would look like an articulating bus. Lol. It would definitely be unique. But by shortening the bus to fit the truck or extending the frame on the truck to fit the bus I could take full advantage of having a 4x4 dually. there's nothing practical about what I'm thinking about doing. if I had a good reason for doing it I'm not sure I would find it so entertaining.
 
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Old Jan 9, 2019 | 02:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Freightrain
Don't see any problem with your thoughts. I think the bus might be a bit of an issue getting it small enough to fit in any dimension? Those old 40-50's short school buses are cool all done up.

I hate the rims, but I like the bus:

Found it! Different Shorty.

 
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Old Jan 9, 2019 | 03:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Workingstiff
Sight unseen, I'd pick option #1.
Mostly,I'd go with most useful, easiest swap.
My first choice too, only one thing keeping me from pulling the trigger it just sounds like alot of work to build something my big butt and my dog's big butt won't be comfortable in. I might take the dog on a drive to sit in it this weekend. We'll see.
 
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VIN question is bound to come up. Whatever cab you use likely will have a VIN which will be tied to your weight rating. May want to check that out with your DMV.
 
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Old Jan 10, 2019 | 02:39 AM
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Originally Posted by NotEnoughTrucks2014
VIN question is bound to come up. Whatever cab you use likely will have a VIN which will be tied to your weight rating. May want to check that out with your DMV.
Good point, I helped my buddy do a body swap on an old Ford many years ago. Back then it required a visual DOT safety inspection before registration. As I recall the gvw of the undercarriage was what they went by. I don't know if things have changed, but I will certainly be making contact, if nothing else to avoid the awkward conversation when and if I get pulled over.
 
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Old Jan 10, 2019 | 12:56 PM
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I have a friend who used to do kit cars in Texas a few years back, he just had to keep enough of the firewall to retain the Vin, and it would pass right through. the state was satisfied that nothing significant had changed.
 
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Old Jan 10, 2019 | 01:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Eric Fullerton
I have a friend who used to do kit cars in Texas a few years back, he just had to keep enough of the firewall to retain the Vin, and it would pass right through. the state was satisfied that nothing significant had changed.
I should definitely be able to retain three out of four of the VIN locations and if I'm creative maybe all 4. The FL DHSMV has a guy that handles this type of thing and I know he is located about 30 miles south of me. I spoke to him once before on another project a couple years ago. Damn nice guy, if it is the same guy these days he walks you through the process.
 
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