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I had mine to the dealer and they replaced the stabilizer but didn't help... waiting for caster shim kit. Meanwhile I get anxiety when approaching a bridge seam unless I slow down to 50...
Stablizer - I have the Fox 2.0 stablizer set at 64LBS - have had no issues - 16K miles on the truck. Any one had the issue with the Fox stablizer?
Great work!!! with the videos - those videos need to land on the desk of someone at Ford high on the food chain.
FWIW I have experienced it only on customer's trucks - each time the fix was the track bar. I hate when a truck comes in with that complaint as you hope you don't get called back.
I am not saying that is all it is, just been my past experience. The yet another none greasable ball joint on the one end coupled with a much less than desired under-rated bushing on the end are definitely issues.
i think they should buy back a few of the worst case trucks for analisis. thats usualy the best way to figure out a problem
Starting to think my dealer is just throwing parts at it since it is under warranty and they can. After replacing the sway bar and drag link today service writer said they found a little slack in the steering stabilizer so that’s on order now. Guess after the next trip they will order caster shims, lol. At least I’ll have a new front end under the truck by the time they get finished.
I just experienced the death wobble the other day. My vehicle is a 2018 Ford F250 SD with the snow plow suspension (never had a snowplow attached however) but mention it because it means heavier duty springs in the front. The mileage is 6k. I was on an expressway at 70 mph (posted speed limit) and the Death Wobble started on a new road where the roadway and an overpass expansion joint would be. I let of the gas and it didn't go away, then I pump the brakes slightly while trying to keep control and the wobble stopped when the vehicle slowed passed 30 mph. Can you imagine on a 70 mph highway the guy in front has to quickly get his vehicle down to 30 mph to stop this occurrence? Sounds like a recipe for a rear end crash. Scared the hell out of me.
Added info - (Lariat) stock unit - no lift, stock tires, no mods...
Last edited by Jim Linden; Feb 27, 2019 at 01:30 PM.
Reason: added info
Are there any known early symptoms of death wobble? I ask because my steering feels looser while driving on the freeway than I remember when I bought it. Could just be me over thinking this though...
I experienced the death wobble about 6 weeks ago and the dealership I was working with applied the TSB on it a few weeks ago. My paperwork is a bit cryptic but as far as I can tell, they replaced all the parts in the TSB (caster shims and steering stabilizer). Is it fixed? Only time will tell. I still plan to install an aftermarket stabilizer and replace the crappy OEM tires in the next few weeks.
I just picked up my F250 dealer did the cast shims and replaced the steering dampener . The first dampener made it about 12,000 miles the next dampener made it less the 5,000 . Dealer did the TSB on the first visit at 12,000. I’m at 17,000 no faith in this latest fix.
Dealer replaced the steering damper on mine, said the old one was out of spec. Less than 13,000 miles on the truck, no shims show up on the work order. Haven’t had a shimmy since I got it back but I am keeping my fingers crossed.
Great work!!! with the videos - those videos need to land on the desk of someone at Ford high on the food chain.
FWIW I have experienced it only on customer's trucks - each time the fix was the track bar. I hate when a truck comes in with that complaint as you hope you don't get called back.
I am not saying that is all it is, just been my past experience. The yet another none greasable ball joint on the one end coupled with a much less than desired under-rated bushing on the end are definitely issues.
The track bar is going to account for at least 90%+ of all cases of DW, along with other worn parts and/or bad tires and of course bad shocks. It is incredibly difficult to believe some aftermarket company like Synergy has not already designed and built a complete replacement steering linkage for these trucks. These threads are exactly why I commented on another thread that I EXPECT to get the DW on my new truck before too long. Clearly the track bar is a crappy design, and if there is even ONE report of this happening, then it is entirely conceivable that it can happen to any truck out there. It can be fixed, but at a price. The bad parts have to be found and replaced with good stout new parts and the caster has to be run at near 5*. The camber should be fixed in the knuckles and the toe-in needs to be set correctly. Tires and wheels can not have any balance issues AT ALL. Shocks and radius arm bushings have to be completely functional and after-market shocks that are super robust (expensive) like Fox or Kings should be used. Any tie rod ends or ball joints have to be checked and verified to be in good shape with no slop to their movement AT ALL. The angles between the track bar and the drag link should be identical or real damned close to it. The axle itself cannot be bent and wheels running true. Everything in the front end has to be rigorously and thoroughly checked properly and frequently. Excessive negative offset on the wheels should be avoided as they induce a lot of undesirable side-loading onto the whole assembly with the attendant extra leverage. The stabilizer shock can help dampen any lateral shock to the steering components, but will never fix DW on its own. Just a band-aid.
These front ends can be made bullet-proof, and they should have come that way from the factory. I would much rather forego the fancy interior and get a rock-solid truck that just will not break and lasts a LONG time without a bunch of problems. The desert racing guys set up their trucks to thrive under the worst beatings that can be imagined and come back for more so it is possible. It is absolutely ludicrous that we are even having this discussion in regards to trucks that can cost upwards of $90k+ but it is what it is unfortunately. Still searching for the complete replacement front-end steering linkage to include the track bar and drag link and tie rod along with correct brackets as necessary to maintain proper geometry... In fact it is hard to believe that some enterprising company has not long ago designed and built a complete replacement steering linkage for the superduty trucks. Like Synergy did for the dodge trucks. The demand is there obviously.
Are there any known early symptoms of death wobble? I ask because my steering feels looser while driving on the freeway than I remember when I bought it. Could just be me over thinking this though...
Not necessarily. If it is starting to feel a little looser, CHECK EVERYTHING IN THAT FRONT END. Take nothing for granted that it is a nearly new truck blah blah blah. That means nothing.