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Old Nov 20, 2018 | 09:04 AM
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Re: 2002 SD. Yesterday I my RR caliper was dragging. Upon inspection one of the pistons was frozen. I replaced it with a NAPA caliper. When replacing the caliper the level in the master cylinder reservoir went down less than an inch. I bled the caliper using a Motive Products pump type pressure bleeder. However, the brake pedal was now spongy so I bled it again as well as the LR caliper. No change - pedal still spongy. If I press on pedal slowly it goes almost to the floor. Brakes do still seem to work. I tried to bleed front calipers but they would only weep a little - do bleeder screws go bad? Everything was normal before I changed the caliper so I am thinking it is not a MC problem? Any thoughts on where problem lies?
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Old Nov 20, 2018 | 10:21 AM
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It could still be a MC issue. What can happens is the seal inside the MC has travelled past the point it normally rides and can cause the seal to not seal good since the bore isn't as smooth in that unused area.
 
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Old Nov 21, 2018 | 05:23 PM
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^agreed, by the sounds of your symptoms (holding foot on pedal it will slowly go to floor) sounds like a master cylinder problem. Or a massive leak somewhere in the system but that would be obvious....
 
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Old Nov 21, 2018 | 10:26 PM
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I replaced the master cylinder and got no improvement. There is no external leakage. My pressure bleeder goes to 15 psi so I am thinking that there is still air in the system. I am going to try manual bleeding.
 
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Old Nov 22, 2018 | 12:26 AM
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Bleed all the brakes, start at right rear, then left rear. Left front then right front.
Always keep the master cylinder full.
I like to bleed them all until fresh new fluid arrives at each corner.
Bleeding the brakes to me means "bleed ALL the brakes".
Bleeder screws could be clogged or the rubber brake hoses could be collapsed and blocking flow.
Or could be a master cylinder problem. It wouldn't be the first time a new one was bad right out of the box.
 
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Old Nov 22, 2018 | 07:58 AM
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Or an ABS problem.

15 psi is not enough to do an effective bleed. Also, on that replacement caliper, are you sure the bleed screw is higher then the hose connection? If not, you have the wrong side caliper installed.
 
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Old Nov 22, 2018 | 11:09 AM
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AND WE MAY HAVE A WINNER! The bleed screw is lower than the hose connection. The part # on the NAPA box is correct but the caliper is RL rather than RR. I will get the correct caliper and let everyone know the outcome.
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Old Nov 22, 2018 | 08:05 PM
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This has happened before..lol
 
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Old Nov 22, 2018 | 09:39 PM
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Amazing how many times, including by professional mechanics.




 
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Old Nov 23, 2018 | 10:58 AM
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I've seen people put them on the wrong side when replacing the pair, but the wrong one in the wrong box...that's rare.
 
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Old Nov 23, 2018 | 12:15 PM
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Yes - despite the correct number on the box (NAPA new made in China) it contained RL instead of RR. I installed the correct caliper, bled the system and now have good pedal (at least by Super Duty standard.)
THANKS FOR ALL YOUR COMMENTS.
 
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Actually, it's not that rare as you may think with the early 1999-2004 trucks. The very early a real problem due to initially only having one caliper design, and on the driver's side fit to the front of the axle.
 
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