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Old Oct 29, 2018 | 09:44 AM
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Connector Identification

I am looking for a convenient place to connect a couple of marker lights that will be mounted near the trailer hitch. I want them to operate when the taillights are on. In the picture below there are a couple plugged connectors. Are these additional trailer wiring connectors. This might be a good spot to connect my lights. Are there any other convenient locations to make the connections.


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Old Oct 29, 2018 | 09:58 AM
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Is that the passenger side frame rail at the back? I believe it might be the fifth wheel bed plug prep wires, but I would have thought it would be on the other dpsode?
 
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Old Oct 29, 2018 | 10:34 AM
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Those are the 5er bed plug prep. They are on the drivers side.
 
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Old Oct 29, 2018 | 11:38 AM
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Thanks guys, it is the drivers side. I think that will be my connection point. Just need to go down to Ford for the connectors mate.
 
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Old Oct 29, 2018 | 12:40 PM
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Just took the same photo and was thinking of connecting a few of the LED lights to either an upfitter switch or through on of these for use in reverse. Will be following...
 
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I spliced homemade rear running lights into the license plate light wires. Used water tight butt splices that come with adhesive lined heat shrink.
 
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Old Oct 29, 2018 | 01:48 PM
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Originally Posted by rrthor
Thanks guys, it is the drivers side. I think that will be my connection point. Just need to go down to Ford for the connectors mate.
As mentioned in another thread about misc. lights and the trailer plugs, you may want to make sure that the truck doesn't think there's a trailer attached because lights are utilizing that source.
I once plugged a lighted receiver hitch cover into the 4 prong on either my 2014 or 2016 F250 and the truck indicated a trailer was there.
 
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Old Oct 29, 2018 | 02:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Poncho450
As mentioned in another thread about misc. lights and the trailer plugs, you may want to make sure that the truck doesn't think there's a trailer attached because lights are utilizing that source.
I once plugged a lighted receiver hitch cover into the 4 prong on either my 2014 or 2016 F250 and the truck indicated a trailer was there.

Excellent thought.
 
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Originally Posted by rrthor
Excellent thought.
There's a Facebook page for 2017+ F250 owners started by one of the members here. Someone had posted that they bought an LED light set for the running board area that would plug into the 4 prong. At first he posted that he plugged it in and it was no problem. His next post wasn't 100% clear to me but it seemed then that the problem did crop up.

​​​​​​https://www.facebook.com/groups/1657...group_activity
 
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Old Oct 30, 2018 | 10:44 AM
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This morning I tested the lights using the 6 pin connector shown above in the photo. The lights worked. I started the truck, put it in gear and there was no indication on the screen that a trailer was connected. Maybe it's okay, maybe those 4 led's don't use enough current to trigger the trailer is connected message or to trigger the message there needs to be one of the other wires in the connector connected. Anyway I am going to try it. It's a clean way to do it rather than splicing into a wire somewhere. Those connectors have the male housing plugged into the female housing to keep the dirt out. I am going to Ford today and see if I can get pins for that connector. I think it might be made by Delphi.
 
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Originally Posted by rrthor
This morning I tested the lights using the 6 pin connector shown above in the photo. The lights worked. I started the truck, put it in gear and there was no indication on the screen that a trailer was connected. Maybe it's okay, maybe those 4 led's don't use enough current to trigger the trailer is connected message or to trigger the message there needs to be one of the other wires in the connector connected. Anyway I am going to try it. It's a clean way to do it rather than splicing into a wire somewhere. Those connectors have the male housing plugged into the female housing to keep the dirt out. I am going to Ford today and see if I can get pins for that connector. I think it might be made by Delphi.
Keep us updated. I may someday put LED's around the running boards yet! But then again I probably don't have those plugs available because I've got the 5th wheel prep with the plug inside of the bed.
 
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Old Oct 30, 2018 | 11:25 PM
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I just tapped one of those for my reverse lights yesterday. The reverse wire is in the plug with 6 wires feeding it. You do not need a special plug from ford. In the end of the plug there are green rubber plugs for each pin socket. Just pull the plug out with pliers and then install your wire and metripack terminal.
 
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Old Oct 31, 2018 | 07:01 AM
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Do you have a part number for the pins. I bought a pin from Napa (NW725285) but it is not correct. I was able to make it work.

Yesterday I was able to identify the plug. You can get a pigtail from Ford for $43. It's cheaper on line. It is part number:
WPT-163
1U2Z-14S411-BUA

https://fordparts.bowenscarff.com/oem-parts/ford-wire-assembly-wpt163
 

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Originally Posted by rrthor
Do you have a part number for the pins. I bought a pin from Napa (NW725285) but it is not correct. I was able to make it work.
No idea. They are just standard 14-16AWG male metripack terminals. Here is an Amazon link to a full assortment.
Amazon Amazon

Those and the weatherpack equivalent are handy to have on hand as those two system will cover 99% of all connectors on all vehicles.

Weatherpack terminal kit Weatherpack terminal kit

FYI if a connector uses round terminal pins its Weatherpack. IF it uses square / rectangle pins its Metripack.
 
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Old Oct 31, 2018 | 04:50 PM
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Thanks Grant
 
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