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Old Oct 22, 2018 | 01:01 PM
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Relocate/Replace Steering box

I did a lot of searching but did not have any luck. Maybe wrong terms not sure. But....
I am dropping a cummins ISB170 in to a 1952 F3. There is no room for the stock steering box. This cannot be the first time this has occurred for someone. (larger engine, headers, etc) I just wanted to get ideas of what has been done in the past to solve this issue. My first thought was to use a steering box that mounts on the outside of the frame. Like the Bronco. Then maybe replace the draglink that will provide cross steering.
Not sure if that has been done or if it would just make sense to go with a rack and pinion. Any insight would be appreciated.
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Old Oct 23, 2018 | 02:04 AM
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https://westernchassisinc.com/1948-5...nd-Pinion-Kit/

You can get rack and steering conversions pretty easily that are as non destructive as possible. Someone local here has it on an F2 panel, seems to work really well.

Not sure if this fits the F3 beam axle, though it has F1 specific instructions, implying it fits others. Probably worth a phone call.
 
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Old Oct 23, 2018 | 07:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Steve Harlow
https://westernchassisinc.com/1948-5...nd-Pinion-Kit/

You can get rack and steering conversions pretty easily that are as non destructive as possible. Someone local here has it on an F2 panel, seems to work really well.

Not sure if this fits the F3 beam axle, though it has F1 specific instructions, implying it fits others. Probably worth a phone call.
I would love to hear from someone using these. When researching these that attach to the straight axle I keep running into threads that say they are unsafe. Because of the wear that occurs in the steering column which has to take all the shock of the road. Also when a bump is encountered on one side and not the other if effects the steering (a different kind of bump steer) because you are holding the steering wheel in one place and the rack is moving relative to that position.
 
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Old Oct 23, 2018 | 03:49 PM
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That unit looks exactly like the set up that No-Limits used to sell. I had one on my 51 when I bought it and was not impressed; I never drove with it. Took it off and sold it to someone for cheap. It just seemed to be too cobbled together. Someone here had installed one and was not overly happy with it-a search for No-Limits should find the threads.

These facts together with the fact that No-Limits dropped it from their line after only a few years convinced me to convert back to stock.

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Old Oct 24, 2018 | 10:06 PM
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Funny, the guy here with the panel wagon didn't have anything bad to say about his. I guess it is a little too good to be true.
 
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May not help but check Saginaw cross steer.
Have one on a 56 and have done others.
 
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Old Oct 26, 2018 | 12:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Steve Harlow
Funny, the guy here with the panel wagon didn't have anything bad to say about his. I guess it is a little too good to be true.
Yea I seen several post with people both happy and not so happy. The one thing I did notice is the ones using this setup have been for years, so the feedback has been it does not wear like everyone seems to think.

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May not help but check Saginaw cross steer.
Have one on a 56 and have done others.
I tried find some examples but not sure I am looking at what you are thinking of. Does the steering box mount on the inside of the frame? Have you seen other options? Did you use a different drag link. I just do not have any room between the motor and the frame.
I have seen a few setups using the bronco box. This may be a good candidate for cross steering.

 
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