Notices

return fuel line?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Sep 25, 2003 | 03:08 PM
  #1  
dapozer's Avatar
dapozer
Thread Starter
|
Junior User
Joined: Oct 2002
Posts: 70
Likes: 0
From: littleton
return fuel line?

are you running on of theses or not. I am having problems with carb load, and also dumping fuel into carb after the vehicle is shut down. ie. after running the vehicle and it gets hot, shut down and wait 15 min, take a lot of cranking to get it restarted and act as if it were flooded. I am running a holly red fuel pump, elerbrock 1406, and msd6al with petronix. i also not some stmble or load up at wot. my thinking would be to run a return line to handle the pressure at stoplights and to release pressure when shutting down.
s
 
Reply
Old Sep 26, 2003 | 08:56 AM
  #2  
Freightrain's Avatar
Freightrain
Lead Driver
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 9,893
Likes: 12
From: Ohio
Club FTE Silver Member

I run a return system, but its on my race car. It may help, but not sure if actually needed.

Have you checked the float level? Maybe it's too high.
Have you checked the fuel pressure at the carb? The red pump should not need a regulator, but maybe it's a bit on the high side.
If the carb is getting heat soaked when sitting, try installing a phenolic spacer under carb to help block the heat.

Those "carter" style carbs do take some tuning to get right. They are also a bit more involved in getting RIGHT. There are JETS and METERING rods. You have to know which pair to install to get the certain mixture. I would suggest buying the book on these and do some reading.

I used to run these years back, but I like my Holley's a bit better. Granted they are a mess to take apart, but for tuning I like them better. I run 2 Holley's on ALL my hot rods, so I'm a little more comfortable with them.
(truck has med. riser 2-4bbls, blown 390 has 2-4bbls, and wagon runs tunnelwedge 2-4bbls)


Larry
 
Reply
Old Sep 26, 2003 | 11:56 PM
  #3  
1966ford's Avatar
1966ford
Senior User
25 Year Member
Joined: Aug 2000
Posts: 141
Likes: 0
From: ND/MN
I had the same problem with the 390 in my 66. I fixed it with an insulated spacer between the intake and the carb.
 
Reply
Old Sep 27, 2003 | 03:25 PM
  #4  
Jsbiohazard's Avatar
Jsbiohazard
Senior User
Joined: Dec 2002
Posts: 168
Likes: 0
From: Omaha USA
After you run it for 15 min, take the air cleaner off, turn the engine off and watch the carb. If you see a bunch of foggy smoke coming out of the carb then the float is not right, it is stuck or the needle and seat is bad. In any of these situations, gas is still going into the intake after the engine is shut off until the pressure is all drained out. Then you are flooded for sure. My truck did this and I replace the carb. Or you could get is rebuilt.
 
Reply
Old Sep 27, 2003 | 05:03 PM
  #5  
dapozer's Avatar
dapozer
Thread Starter
|
Junior User
Joined: Oct 2002
Posts: 70
Likes: 0
From: littleton
the carb is new and i beleive i have a good setup of jets and rods as to the elevation i am at. i have discussed this with the eldebrock tech line and they suggest a regulator for fuel pressure and getting rid of the 1 inch spacer that is on it now. they have suggested their smaller spacer instead. i am running a streetmaster manifold. looks like i will be looking furthur into the carb and float settign soon.

thanks for all the input
s
 
Reply
Old Sep 27, 2003 | 09:16 PM
  #6  
krewat's Avatar
krewat
FTE Leadership Emeritus
Joined: Jul 2002
Posts: 42,561
Likes: 423
From: Long Island USA
Club FTE Gold Member
Sounds like typical vapor lock. It's possible you are actually boiling the gasoline in the line, or while in the carb.

That's why one guy putting an insulating spacer under the carb helped.

I had this with my '74 F250, even with the stock 360. My brother, who bought it new, also had the problem. He tried putting in a return fuel line, and he said it didn't really help, and never came up with a solution before I got it from him with over 180K miles on it (second motor).

Did it for me too. I did all sorts of things, but it came down to keeping the fuel line going from the tank to the fuel pump, and from the fuel pump to the carb, away from anything hot. Putting on a good fan shroud helped, because it blew more cool air across the motor and kept the lines cooler.

Anyway, what's happening is that the fuel is so hot, that after shutting down, it vaporizes, floods the carb and intake and you're "flooded". While moving, a heavy foot will get you in trouble too, because of the extra heat.

Or the other guys here are right, and it's a float level problem.

Either way, do yourself a favor and try to keep the carb and fuel lines as cool as possible. Putting in an insulating carb spacer might be the way to go.

ak
 
Reply




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 03:38 PM.

story-0
Top 10 Most Expensive Ford Trucks Ever Sold on Bring a Trailer

Slideshow: 10 most expensive Ford trucks ever sold on Bring a Trailer.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-27 16:24:34


VIEW MORE
story-1
2027 Ford Super Duty Buyer's Guide (Every Model, Engine, & Package)

Here's everything that has changed for the latest model year.

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-27 16:17:28


VIEW MORE
story-2
Top 10 Ford Truck Tragedies

Slideshow: Top 10 Ford truck tragedies.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-18 19:34:33


VIEW MORE
story-3
AEV FXL Super Duty - the Super Duty Raptor Ford Doesn't Make

And it might be even better than that.

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-18 19:26:42


VIEW MORE
story-4
Lobo Vs Lobo: Proof the F-150 Lobo Should Be Even Lower!

Slideshow: Does lowering an F-150 Lobo RUIN the ride quality?

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-05-18 19:20:37


VIEW MORE
story-5
Ford's 2001 Explorer Sportsman Concept Looks For a New Home

Slideshow: Ford's bizarre fishing-themed Explorer concept has resurfaced after spending decades largely forgotten.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-12 18:07:46


VIEW MORE
story-6
10 Best Ford Truck Engines We Miss the Most!

Slideshow: The 10 best Ford truck engines we miss the most.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-12 13:09:47


VIEW MORE
story-7
2026 Shelby F-150 Off-Road: Better Than a Raptor R?

Slideshow: first look at the 810 hp 2026 Shelby F-150 Off-Road!

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-12 12:50:07


VIEW MORE
story-8
2027 Super Duty Carhartt Package First Look: 12 Things You NEED to Know!

Slideshow: Everything You Need to Know about the 2027 Super Duty Carhartt Package!

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-05-07 17:51:06


VIEW MORE
story-9
10 Most Surprising 2026 Ford Truck Features!

Slideshow: 10 most surprising Ford truck options/features in 2026.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-05 11:17:22


VIEW MORE