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Old Oct 1, 2018 | 05:44 PM
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Desperately need help trying to find out the information about my bus i still dont know what size engine it has...

VIN: B60CCF95944
 

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Old Oct 2, 2018 | 10:51 AM
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Originally Posted by willisgiles
Desperately need help trying to find out the information about my bus i still dont know what size engine it has...

VIN: B60CCF95944
B60 = B600.

C = 330 2V Medium Duty FT engine.

C = Oakville Ontario Canada Truck Assembly Plant.

F95944 = 1969.

 
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Old Oct 2, 2018 | 11:09 AM
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Originally Posted by NumberDummy
B60 = B600.

C = 330 2V Medium Duty FT engine.

C = Oakville Ontario Canada Truck Assembly Plant.

F95944 = 1969.
Dummy thank you so much i really appreciate i cant tell you how many guys have looked at her and said with 100 % confidence "oh yeah thats definitely a 390"
"oh thats definitely a 360"

Glad to know its really inly a medium duty...since i just likely threw a rod yesterday i may swap her out with a heavy duty desiel equivalent that will fit...id prefer a deisel in the long run anyway.

Thanks again, youre fast as hell man!
 
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Old Oct 2, 2018 | 11:26 AM
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Originally Posted by willisgiles
Dummy thank you so much i really appreciate i cant tell you how many guys have looked at her and said with 100 % confidence "oh yeah thats definitely a 390"
"oh thats definitely a 360"

Glad to know its really only a medium duty...since i just likely threw a rod yesterday i may swap her out with a heavy duty diesel equivalent that will fit...id prefer a diesel in the long run anyway.
FE engines (352/360/390 and etc) were not installed in 500 and larger series trucks.

Any 1964/78 FT engine will work, sizes: 330 2V Medium Duty, 330 2V Heavy Duty, 361 2V/4V, 391 4V

Swapping in a diesel will be expensive and you'll need engine/trans mounting parts. Where will you find any that will work?
 
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Old Oct 2, 2018 | 02:18 PM
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Originally Posted by NumberDummy
FE engines (352/360/390 and etc) were not installed in 500 and larger series trucks.

Any 1964/78 FT engine will work, sizes: 330 2V Medium Duty, 330 2V Heavy Duty, 361 2V/4V, 391 4V

Swapping in a diesel will be expensive and you'll need engine/trans mounting parts. Where will you find any that will work?
Honestly ive been pondering the possibility of putting my OBS 7.3 Powerstroke engine in there along with the rest of whatever i can make fit/work. Maybe get an allison transmission?

Do you think thats a stupid thing to do? Like could the engine handle the payload of the bus?
 
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7.3 oil burner > 330 CID gasser.

Allison would be a question mark. You would need an OD model due to the gearing in the bus. Do some research and find out what your axle is. In a bus I would guess you have a single speed axle, probably a 6.50ish ratio.

Is there a warranty plate in that thing anywhere? It has trans and axle codes, along with the VIN, GVWR, wheel base, and other exciting info.
 
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Old Oct 2, 2018 | 04:46 PM
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Originally Posted by 85e150six4mtod
7.3 oil burner > 330 CID gasser.

Allison would be a question mark. You would need an OD model due to the gearing in the bus. Do some research and find out what your axle is. In a bus I would guess you have a single speed axle, probably a 6.50ish ratio.

Is there a warranty plate in that thing anywhere? It has trans and axle codes, along with the VIN, GVWR, wheel base, and other exciting info.
She has a two speed spit rear axle sorry i should i mentioned that...tranny seems solid.

Here is the data off of the plate:

B60CCF95944
222 G B602 84 A F2
20000 164 3800 539070

Now i gotta try and match the bolt pattern of the tranny off the bus to the engine outta the stroker
 
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What transmission was behind the 7.3?
 
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The E4OD its an ok tranmission they are known to be problematic and mine sure has been. But the engine is a BOSS.
 
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Originally Posted by willisgiles
She has a two speed split rear axle sorry i should i mentioned that...tranny seems solid.

VIN (previously decoded in post #205): B60CCF95944

WB: 222 / COLOR: G / MODEL: B602 / BODY: 84 / TRANS: A / AXLE: F2 / MAX GVW LBS: 20000 / CERT NET HP: 164 / RPM: 3800 / DSO: 539070
222" Wheelbase.

G = Chrome Yellow.

B602 = B600, 20,000 lbs. GVWR

84 = Open Drive-Away Chassis & Cowl.

A = New Process 435 4 Speed Manual Transmission.

F2 = Eaton model 15201 Two Speed Rear Axle / 5.83/8.17 / 15,000 lbs. Axle Capacity.

20,000 lbs. Gross Vehicle Weight Rating.

164 net HP @ 3,800 RPM

539070:

53 = Kansas City MO Ford District Sales Office, where the original selling dealer ordered the truck from.

9070 = Domestic Special Order number, truck ordered special by the original purchaser, not "bought off the lot."
 
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Old Oct 2, 2018 | 08:27 PM
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OK, The diesel motor has a different bell to engine pattern, so even though the transmission in the bus can be made to work, the bell can't.

IMO I would bring the E4OD over with the 7.3. You would need a controller for it, but a couple hours with a "need money" sign at the bottom of a freeway off ramp and you'll have the money to do that.

That said, are you going to need a controller for the 7.3 also?

I take it you are not going to be hauling enough to get close to the GVWR of 20,000.
 
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Old Oct 2, 2018 | 08:33 PM
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Thread moved.

A two speed in a bus, as if the bus driver didn't have enough to do......
 
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Old Oct 2, 2018 | 08:54 PM
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Sorry to have posted in the wrong thread! But man you guys are on point! I appreciate the sharing of knowledge ive been having a hard time after weeks of googling. Im gonna try and figure out a transmission upgrade. The 4EOD tranny may need to be rebuilt and id rather just drop the money on something more reliable.
 
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Old Oct 2, 2018 | 08:57 PM
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Not sure i understand what you mean by a controller. Im not a technician or anything i just fix **** when it breaks and sometimes have to get a real mechanic when needed. This bus is going to he turned into a tiny home. Ive already got my insulation and subflooring installed haha what timing for the engine to detonate...
 
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Old Oct 2, 2018 | 08:58 PM
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You were ok in that thread, but your situation expanded. So you got your own thread at no additional cost.

Can't see how an Allison would be cheaper than an E4OD rebuild but that's something you'll figure out.

Good luck!
 
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