How much off MSRP when ordering F350?
#16
09-23-2018, 04:55 PM
i see the EAA x-plan Offer but not where to get the additional $750 EAA coupon. Looking at the dentonford site there’s a $750 Offer but only for 2017/2018, not 2019s
How do I get the $750 EAA Offer and is it valid on 2019s?
#17
09-23-2018, 05:04 PM
Sorry. I wasn't looking at it. mine is a 2018. Contact them to see if there is a new offer.
#18
09-23-2018, 05:06 PM
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Try this? And the coupon excludes 2019s. Its basically just a $750 PCO.
https://www.fordspecialoffer.com/ecoupons/?context=EAA
https://www.fordspecialoffer.com/ecoupons/?context=EAA
#19
09-23-2018, 05:10 PM
WOOO HOOO!!!!!
i logged onto https://www.fordspecialoffer.com/ecoupons/?context=EAA filled info out and I got an email certificate for $750 that includes 2018-2019
AWESOME !!!
#20
09-23-2018, 05:14 PM
WOOO HOOO!!!!!
i logged onto https://www.fordspecialoffer.com/ecoupons/?context=EAA filled info out and I got an email certificate for $750 that includes 2018-2019
AWESOME !!!
NOW I HAVE MY FINGERS CROSSED TO SEE IF I CAN COMBINE IT WITH MY $3,000 PCO that EXPIRES 10/1.
#22
09-23-2018, 07:11 PM
How I figured out invoice pricing (by accident)...
First I had them quote me on a 2018 truck that had been sitting on the lot long enough to show a little sun damage - F 250 Powerstroke Lariat Ultimate 4x4. The price sheet showed ~ $4k worth of "dealer discounts" attached. It came out to $63.5k. I told the salesman that I could get a 2019 for that price... he said probably. It was a beautiful truck, with less than 30 miles from test drives. I told him I'd write him a check for 58k and waked out the door. He didnt bite, budge, negotiate or call me back that week. In my mind, I think he's holding out till Ford rolls out crazy rebates on the 2018s so they dont have to use dealer cash to sell that truck.
A few weeks later I decided to custom order a 2019 F350 - only pay for what you need but less room to negotiate... you know the pros/cons...
When the order sheet had been prepped there was the same $4k worth of "dealer discounts" attached. It wasn't discounts... he was selling me the car at invoice. For both vehicles, he wasn't doing me a favor he was selling the truck at cost. I think we're seeing a shift in dealership pricing where they all sell the vehicles for pretty much the same price and they make their money in kick backs and bonuses for moving cars. It's like communist car dealership because everyone pays the same price regardless of how patient you are or how hard you haggle.
... to answer your question, when you look at the pricing sheet, it breaks down the cost of the truck and each option/piece of equipment and it tells you the MSRP on the left and the cost you pay on the right. Your cost should be invoice cost if you're ordering a truck. This does not include any ford rebates or incentives. Right now they're doing $500 for all Super Duties, $1500 for first responders, $500 for military, $500 for financing through ford, etc.
IMHO, it's going to be very difficult to get a dealer to put up his own cash to sell you a custom order... if you're getting $500 or $1k below invoice ONTOP of rebates and incentive from Big Ford, you're crushing it. Likewise, dont pay over invoice. Its no risk, no reward for him. You save money because you only have to pay for the options you want.
A few weeks later I decided to custom order a 2019 F350 - only pay for what you need but less room to negotiate... you know the pros/cons...
When the order sheet had been prepped there was the same $4k worth of "dealer discounts" attached. It wasn't discounts... he was selling me the car at invoice. For both vehicles, he wasn't doing me a favor he was selling the truck at cost. I think we're seeing a shift in dealership pricing where they all sell the vehicles for pretty much the same price and they make their money in kick backs and bonuses for moving cars. It's like communist car dealership because everyone pays the same price regardless of how patient you are or how hard you haggle.
... to answer your question, when you look at the pricing sheet, it breaks down the cost of the truck and each option/piece of equipment and it tells you the MSRP on the left and the cost you pay on the right. Your cost should be invoice cost if you're ordering a truck. This does not include any ford rebates or incentives. Right now they're doing $500 for all Super Duties, $1500 for first responders, $500 for military, $500 for financing through ford, etc.
IMHO, it's going to be very difficult to get a dealer to put up his own cash to sell you a custom order... if you're getting $500 or $1k below invoice ONTOP of rebates and incentive from Big Ford, you're crushing it. Likewise, dont pay over invoice. Its no risk, no reward for him. You save money because you only have to pay for the options you want.
#23
09-23-2018, 09:56 PM
My total discount worked out to be $9,682.60, or 12.84%.
23% off a new car? 
I don't know any dealers able to mark their vehicles up 30% before offering discounts.
Thanks, I needed that.
The best percentage off the MSRP I've seen was 23%... and I've been buying cars since the late 60's. When asked to make an offer... 20% is where I begin since they begin with MSRP. make dealer compete for your business. First the big three, then if it's a Ford, then other dealers. Never be afraid to give deposits with the sales manager signature and card attached.
Once you hear something like... I can beat it by $50 and you hear that from the sales manager, that's about it... and no longer worth the effort. The prices must be what the written amount on check would look like, so no additional "fees" are inserted. It's bottom line pricing you're after.
That's my story and I'm sticking to it.
Once you hear something like... I can beat it by $50 and you hear that from the sales manager, that's about it... and no longer worth the effort. The prices must be what the written amount on check would look like, so no additional "fees" are inserted. It's bottom line pricing you're after.
That's my story and I'm sticking to it.
I don't know any dealers able to mark their vehicles up 30% before offering discounts.Thanks, I needed that.
#24
09-24-2018, 04:30 AM
My 2017 F350 Listed for $79930 and I got it for $64000 plus tax and license. That is about a 20% discount.
Also, that is in Canadian Dollars. At a current 28% exchange difference in the dollar that would have made my
XLT Dually, Diesel, 4X4 with XLT Preminum Package, Ultimate Tow Camera Package, Power Mirrors, Power Moon Roof,
5th Wheel/Gooseneck Prep, Spray-in Bed Liner equipped truck purchased for $50000 US Dollars.
Also, that is in Canadian Dollars. At a current 28% exchange difference in the dollar that would have made my
XLT Dually, Diesel, 4X4 with XLT Preminum Package, Ultimate Tow Camera Package, Power Mirrors, Power Moon Roof,
5th Wheel/Gooseneck Prep, Spray-in Bed Liner equipped truck purchased for $50000 US Dollars.
#25
09-24-2018, 05:36 AM
#26
09-24-2018, 08:45 AM
My 2017 F350 Listed for $79930 and I got it for $64000 plus tax and license. That is about a 20% discount.
Also, that is in Canadian Dollars. At a current 28% exchange difference in the dollar that would have made my
XLT Dually, Diesel, 4X4 with XLT Preminum Package, Ultimate Tow Camera Package, Power Mirrors, Power Moon Roof,
5th Wheel/Gooseneck Prep, Spray-in Bed Liner equipped truck purchased for $50000 US Dollars.
Also, that is in Canadian Dollars. At a current 28% exchange difference in the dollar that would have made my
XLT Dually, Diesel, 4X4 with XLT Preminum Package, Ultimate Tow Camera Package, Power Mirrors, Power Moon Roof,
5th Wheel/Gooseneck Prep, Spray-in Bed Liner equipped truck purchased for $50000 US Dollars.
KBB values for 2017 F350 actually went up in the last 2 months. After the recent Hurticane I can see an even more price bump in newer used truck prices to replace the many thousand flood damaged trucks.
I just did a NADA price check and a New 2019 F350 equipped exactly like my 2017 F350 has an invoice $8,000 more than the trade in offer for my 2017. If you factor in $3k PCO, $1k rebate, $750 EAA Discount a new no miles 2017 F350 is only $3,500 more than my ‘17 with 20k miles. Plus there’s a full 3yr warranty vs the 1 yr remaining on my used 2017.
So bottom line is I could order a 2019 F350 equipped exactly like my 2017 F350 and after rebates a PCO it would only cost me my car plus $4,000. Not bad depreciation for almost 2 years and 20,000 miles.
#27
09-24-2018, 09:01 AM
So, you want to feel even better? I am having problems with my F350 and I wanted to trade it in for the exact same truck only in a F450. The F450 only has a list price of approx. $3000 more than my F350. My dealer wanted my truck and $18000 plus tax and license to get into a new F450. I only have 3100 miles on my truck and I am afraid to drive it because of the front end problem. I was hoping the dealer would help me out but they decided to try and take advantage and make some money off the situation!
#28
09-24-2018, 02:07 PM
These numbers make me feel better every day for the trade in offer the dealer gave me for my 2017 F350 w/20,000 miles and with some minor body work needed. Trade in offer was well above your $50k USD price that you paid.
KBB values for 2017 F350 actually went up in the last 2 months. After the recent Hurticane I can see an even more price bump in newer used truck prices to replace the many thousand flood damaged trucks.
I just did a NADA price check and a New 2019 F350 equipped exactly like my 2017 F350 has an invoice $8,000 more than the trade in offer for my 2017. If you factor in $3k PCO, $1k rebate, $750 EAA Discount a new no miles 2017 F350 is only $3,500 more than my ‘17 with 20k miles. Plus there’s a full 3yr warranty vs the 1 yr remaining on my used 2017.
So bottom line is I could order a 2019 F350 equipped exactly like my 2017 F350 and after rebates a PCO it would only cost me my car plus $4,000. Not bad depreciation for almost 2 years and 20,000 miles.
My F150, not so much.
#29
10-05-2018, 12:40 AM
#30
10-05-2018, 09:51 PM
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