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Old Sep 18, 2018 | 12:19 PM
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LED headlight adjustment, maxed out?

According to the dealer, my headlights are adjusted as low as they will go. I have the readlift 2.5" and 35"s on an F350. I took it to the dealer a month ago to have them adjusted as the last adjustment left them cockeyed and the adjuster screws were very tight and i didn't want to break them. The dealer checks it out and informs me that the adjuster on one side is broken and the other side is frozen, so they replace both headlamps. Being's that I am in Alaska its only recently been getting dark enough at nite to use them and my lights are shining in the trees and oncoming traffic is constantly flashing me. Has anyone ever had a dealer tell them the lights are adjusted as low as they will go? I find it hard to believe the headlight adjustment has bottomed out with a 2.5" leveling kit.

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Old Sep 18, 2018 | 04:05 PM
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Easy to believe. I installed 1" shorter lift blocks in the rear (reverse level) and needed to adjust my LED headslights down ... and all the way down was barely enough. So 2-1/2" up at the front? Yeah, you're lights will be high.
 
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Old Sep 18, 2018 | 05:48 PM
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Do you happen to have aftermarket LEDs in stock halogen housings?
 
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Old Sep 18, 2018 | 06:01 PM
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Do you happen to have aftermarket LEDs in stock halogen housings?
I can't tell if you're asking the OP or me. Anyways, mine are OEM LED headlights. LED bulbs installed in the halogen headlight housings don't work well since the reflectors aren't made for the very different way LED bulbs emit light versus halogen bulbs.
 
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Old Sep 18, 2018 | 07:52 PM
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Raise the rear!
 
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Old Sep 19, 2018 | 04:58 AM
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Originally Posted by cficare
I can't tell if you're asking the OP or me. Anyways, mine are OEM LED headlights. LED bulbs installed in the halogen headlight housings don't work well since the reflectors aren't made for the very different way LED bulbs emit light versus halogen bulbs.
I was talking to either one of you, I suppose. If using aftermarket LEDs, you can adjust the depth of the LED in the housing and that will shift the pattern as well. Just an option.
 
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Old Sep 19, 2018 | 05:39 AM
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Originally Posted by cficare
. LED bulbs installed in the halogen headlight housings don't work well since the reflectors aren't made for the very different way LED bulbs emit light versus halogen bulbs.
Many of us here would disagree with that statement as we have very good results.
But as far as this thread, I wonder if there would ever be enough factory adjustment to compensate for a lift and tires that would put an F250's front bumper height at the lower to mid windshield height of many cars?
 
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Old Sep 19, 2018 | 06:58 AM
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Originally Posted by shizzu
According to the dealer, my headlights are adjusted as low as they will go. I have the readlift 2.5" and 35"s on an F350. I took it to the dealer a month ago to have them adjusted as the last adjustment left them cockeyed and the adjuster screws were very tight and i didn't want to break them. The dealer checks it out and informs me that the adjuster on one side is broken and the other side is frozen, so they replace both headlamps. Being's that I am in Alaska its only recently been getting dark enough at nite to use them and my lights are shining in the trees and oncoming traffic is constantly flashing me. Has anyone ever had a dealer tell them the lights are adjusted as low as they will go? I find it hard to believe the headlight adjustment has bottomed out with a 2.5" leveling kit.

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I can see the adjustment being maxed out because you have to consider that the factory headlights are made for stock suspensions. Also, i`ve heard of other people lifting their trucks but they`ve never had a problem re-adjusting their headlights after said lift kit but then again, each persons idea of proper adjustment can vary.
 
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Old Sep 19, 2018 | 07:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Poncho450
Many of us here would disagree with that statement as we have very good results.
But as far as this thread, I wonder if there would ever be enough factory adjustment to compensate for a lift and tires that would put an F250's front bumper height at the lower to mid windshield height of many cars?
It doesn’t matter if you disagree or not. The fact is that halogen housing are designed with a specific bulb, and the filament of that bulb being in a specific place in the housing. If you replace the bulb with a LED or HID, the light does not reflect in the housing in the same way, often times leading to glare for other drivers.

Really, if the answer to LED was to just slap an led bulb in there, OEMs could save a bunch of money and do that themselves.
 
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Old Sep 19, 2018 | 07:25 AM
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It doesn’t matter if you disagree or not. The fact is that halogen housing are designed with a specific bulb, and the filament of that bulb being in a specific place in the housing. If you replace the bulb with a LED or HID, the light does not reflect in the housing in the same way, often times leading to glare for other drivers.

Really, if the answer to LED was to just slap an led bulb in there, OEMs could save a bunch of money and do that themselves.
You're 100% right. It doesn't matter. I had a great result. So did many other users of this forum. Most with no real issue with other motorists flashing high beams. If they did, an adjustment usually cured it. My real world experience is all I need for "fact".
 
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Old Sep 19, 2018 | 07:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Poncho450
You're 100% right. It doesn't matter. I had a great result. So did many other users of this forum. Most with no real issue with other motorists flashing high beams. If they did, an adjustment usually cured it. My real world experience is all I need for "fact".
Get a clue man. It is not a "Fact" LED is a direct light, it requires a direct focus otherwise the light scatters. Incandescent lights provide a even distribution of light and therefore the mirroring for focus is much less complicated.

No matter what you do or how you do it your aftermarket LED bulbs are going to scatter light in directions not intended, and just because you are not getting "high beamed" too often does not mean you are not blinding people. There are moments when its too late to high beam the other driver, but often aftermarket LED users have a very sharp beam heading almost 90 degrees out of the housing, meaning you only get blinded at the very last second of passing that car.

There is a reason these aftermarket LED lights are not DOT approved. Why? Because they simply will not pass any of the requirements. Stop blinding your fellow drivers.
 
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Yes, just because people are not flashing doesn't mean your lights aren't annoying. I'll flash vehicles with annoying light patterns, but my wife won't bother when she is driving. That's real world data...not everyone is going to flash an oncoming vehicle with annoying glare coming from their headlights. I've yet to see a modified set of halogen housing give off a non glaring pattern.
 
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Old Sep 19, 2018 | 08:33 AM
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Yes, just because people are not flashing doesn't mean your lights aren't annoying. I'll flash vehicles with annoying light patterns, but my wife won't bother when she is driving. That's real world data...not everyone is going to flash an oncoming vehicle with annoying glare coming from their headlights. I've yet to see a modified set of halogen housing give off a non glaring pattern.
Could not agree more. Some people just accept it as normal, or don't want to be flashed back as they figure if their main lights are this bright.. their high beams are going to hurt.
 
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Old Sep 19, 2018 | 10:08 AM
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They are the factory LED headlights. my thoughts on the 'lack' of adjustment are how can 2.5" height increase on the front max out the downward adjustment on the lights. Old school headlight adjustments have plenty of room on both sides(up/down) but the LED's can't compensate for 2.5" without bottoming out? I was just trying to find out if anyone had similar experience and if they had a fix. In the end, i'll probably add to the rear height, i was just hoping to fix it sooner.

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Old Sep 19, 2018 | 05:30 PM
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Originally Posted by wfedwar
If using aftermarket LEDs, you can adjust the depth of the LED in the housing and that will shift the pattern as well.
I'm glad to see at least someone is aware of the need to adjust bulb protrusion. I also had to rotate the LED bulbs 11° in my motorcycle headlight to flatten the top edge of the low beam. I was glad to find my light pattern cast against my garage door was almost identical to, but actually a smidge lower than the halogen bulbs they replaced.

 
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